The Dallas Cowboys Memorial (2015 Off-Season) Thread

Lenardo

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insanity, UNLESS the guy is a "100% sure thing" no way no how do you do that...

think about it,. how many first round quarterbacks are busts?

leinart, harrington, russell (not the one on the seahawks) weeden quinn losman ponder boller young carr ramsey leftwich locker tebow grossman alex smith mcnown leaf akili smith

i'm sure i missed several --19 first round quarterbacks in umm ~17years that were either 100% busts like akili smith russell & tebow. or just barely a serviceable quarterback - alex smith
 

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I guess the other way to look at it is that if you *don't* get a quarterback you're going to suck with or without those other 4 players. It's so tough to get one of those guys that if you have a chance to then you kind of have to bet the farm and deal with it if you're wrong. The alternative is to just continue in mediocrity and your ass will be fired in 3 years anyway.
 

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double the stabbings double the fun!
Yeah, this seems like an absolutely crazy idea. Chargers & Raiders fans absolutely hate each other, and you want to put them in the same stadium twice a year? That seems like madness.
 

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They need solid QB play and neither Foles nor Sanchez provided that. I doubt Mariotta can provide it either but I certainly won't complain if Genius Chip leverages the next two years of first and second rounders to take that chance. He has as much of a chance of being right about the move as he does at being wrong. I'll root for him being wrong though.
 

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Yeah, this seems like an absolutely crazy idea. Chargers & Raiders fans absolutely hate each other, and you want to put them in the same stadium twice a year? That seems like madness.
Agreed. I really can't see this going through. More than likely it's a leverage move by both teams to get funding for a stadium closer to home. But who knows? Might make things interesting.
 

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The teams that continue to be amongst the top in the league are the ones that stockpile draft picks.
 

Brahma

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Giving up 4 top 50 talents for an unknown QB is pure insanity.
In no way am I saying I would do the move...but Chip has to know what this guy is capable of, and whether or not he will work in his system. 4 top 50 talents for a franchise QB? I'd do that in a heartbeat. Problem is WTF knows if this guy is a franchise QB. Chances are he isn't.

Other than Luck...in the last 10 years, has any of these guys chosen in the 1st round been a success?
 

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Other than Luck...in the last 10 years, has any of these guys chosen in the 1st round been a success?
little early to call Luck a success story also. Not saying I don't believe he's the next big thing, but he hasn't won a damn thing and tbh hasn't gotten that much better.
 

Lenardo

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luck needs a bit better line, and to stop the stupid mistakes (ie cut down on the interceptions) their D needs to "bulk" up too, way to soft against the power run. (except for one time, the patriots have rushed for ~200yd average each of the past 4 or 5 games)
 

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In no way am I saying I would do the move...but Chip has to know what this guy is capable of, and whether or not he will work in his system. 4 top 50 talents for a franchise QB? I'd do that in a heartbeat. Problem is WTF knows if this guy is a franchise QB. Chances are he isn't.

Other than Luck...in the last 10 years, has any of these guys chosen in the 1st round been a success?
The greatest quarterback in NFL history was pick 199. The draft, the projections, the can't misses, the experts, are all a crap chute.
 

radditsu

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Luck takes a turd team to a division game. Dude is good. Dan Marino never won shit and people call him great.
 

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Luck takes a turd team to a division game. Dude is good. Dan Marino never won shit and people call him great.
Dan Marino took a turd team and made them division contenders damn near every year. The Dolphins aren't much better than Tampa Bay through the entirety of the 80s and early 90s without Marino. I don't know who the GM was back in those days, but him & Shula had just terrible draft class after terrible draft class through the late 80s and 90s. Marino had shit-all for talent around him in the last 2/3 of his career. They started to get decent on defense around the mid 90s once the likes of Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas showed up, and then Pat Surtain and Sam Madison but they still had zero help for Marino on offense, and those defensive guys all came in right in the last couple years of Marinos career, when he was already on the decline and they were all young and not quite in their dominant primes yet. If that combo of Taylor/Thomas/Surtain/Madison would have shown up 10 years earlier, Marino would have himself some rings.
 

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NY Jets in position to pull off draft day trade with Eagles for Marcus Mariotta

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Although the trade value chart devised by Jimmy Johnson in the 1990s provides a numerical representation of the value for draft picks,
Really? Did JJ Redo the values in the 90s? Cause I coulda swore landry and schram were using that system in the 80s and maybe 70s. If anything, the 90s was just when it got out and other teams started using it.

The greatest quarterback in NFL history was pick 199. The draft, the projections, the can't misses, the experts, are all a crap chute.
Who's that? If you say brady I'm coming through the internet and giving you a swirly.
 

radditsu

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I always rooted for Marino. My first football heartbreak was when he lost that last game. I have an affinity for ancient qbs on their last run.