The Elder Scrolls Online

Denaut

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Welcome to modern mmos, where every game is a boring idiotic copy of every boring idiotic copy, ad nauseum.

At this point the only solution is to fire every gaming dev (you included) and breed them from scratch having never played EQ, WoW or any of their endless clones.
Yes, because someone like Elidroth, and the thousands of other people working in the industry, wield enormous power and have massive control over the direction of the comparative tiny number of MMOs that are released. We are also all extremely rich, very good looking, and have huge dongs.
 

Dumar_sl

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You're under the power of corporate interests. We don't blame you, but you mostly produce shit because you're forced. I really only have a problem when someone tries to defend that position under some guise of real game design (cough, Black Hand, cough).
 

Bruman

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Unfortunately I did... for 9 levels. When I switched to 2 handed sword my experience improved by several orders of magnitude. Whoever hasn't written this game off yet, I suggest giving 2HS a try.
It's the only way I've ever really played TES titles, so that's what I went for. I think I quit at like level 2. Maybe 3.

I enjoy playing ranged and picking off enemies. If the other options aren't so miserable, that's good to hear, but still not an incentive to play. If they fix it, and it gets that TES feel for bow combat (falling back to daggers or something only if need be), then I'll give it another try. But not for a sub fee :p.
 

Blackwulf

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It's the only way I've ever really played TES titles, so that's what I went for. I think I quit at like level 2. Maybe 3.

I enjoy playing ranged and picking off enemies. If the other options aren't so miserable, that's good to hear, but still not an incentive to play. If they fix it, and it gets that TES feel for bow combat (falling back to daggers or something only if need be), then I'll give it another try. But not for a sub fee :p.
Yeah, I did 2H and a bit of sword/board. It was decent, like I've said. It makes sense to me that bow and maybe other weapons suck, because that would explain some of the disconnect I'm seeing. If I get a chance, I'll try range abilities next time.
 

popsicledeath

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If I get a chance, I'll try range abilities next time.
Maybe the disconnect really is just that you've been playing 2h so much it made the entire game so amazing compared to everyone else playing ranged. Yeah, that could be it. That's probably the only disconnect between Blackwulf and what everyone else has experienced.

Hopefully playing ranged will help Blackwulf figure out this disconnect! Wait, nope, this just in, guys, ranged abilities have been fixed and are really good! Thanks Blackwulf for letting us know your unbiased perspective!

Blackwulf, don't read the following parenthesis. Eyemuffs, kay?

(My guess is he's such a shill he'll actually say ranged is good, or he'll use this opportunity to try to save what dignity he has left and pretend the problem the whole time wasn't the cock in his mouth, just that he hadn't tried ranged combat yet. Either way will be hilarious and prove he should have ejected from this thread a long time ago.)
 

Blackwulf

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Maybe the disconnect really is just that you've been playing 2h so much it made the entire game so amazing compared to everyone else playing ranged. Yeah, that could be it. That's probably the only disconnect between Blackwulf and what everyone else has experienced.

Hopefully playing ranged will help Blackwulf figure out this disconnect! Wait, nope, this just in, guys, ranged abilities have been fixed and are really good! Thanks Blackwulf for letting us know your unbiased perspective!

Blackwulf, don't read the following parenthesis. Eyemuffs, kay?

(My guess is he's such a shill he'll actually say ranged is good, or he'll use this opportunity to try to save what dignity he has left and pretend the problem the whole time wasn't the cock in his mouth, just that he hadn't tried ranged combat yet. Either way will be hilarious and prove he should have ejected from this thread a long time ago.)
You're so edgy! I love the "cock in mouth" line! Really pulled out an old zinger, there!

Here's the lowdown for ya: I've said, from the first time I've played it, that I think the combat is fun. Dodging, blocking, quick attacks, heavy attacks, managing stamina, magika, throwing interrupts, breaking stuns. I could go on, but suffice to say it is far more engaging than managing a rotation on a hot bar.

I only play 3rd person and I've only played melee. That might be part of why I perceive the combat more positively than some others. Some other possibilities:

1. I gave it quite a few hours and it grew on me. Many people here did not have a desire to put much time in.

2. I'm not a WOW player. I'm not in that clique. I don't value a lot of the stuff I've seen you guys go on and on about.

3. I don't give a shit about internets, so I say what I think and don't try to pump up the popular rerolled.org posters.

4. Maybe my computer is better than a lot of you WOW kids? The graphics were outstanding on my box...

Finally, I'll be glad to acknowledge that I'm in the minority here, but on many sites, there are plenty of people that agree with my perception, so I know I'm not insane. I'm just not part of the circle jerk of angsty dev hate going on around here.

Is the game prefect? Not at all, but rather than say it's "shit", I'll enumerate exactly what I don't like and hope the devs make some changes.

I've heard it compared around here to GW2 and NWN. I've played both those games and can say, with no hesitation, that they are more polished, but far shallower games. There is potential here, and I'll give them at least one game release before I'll write ZOS off like Mark Jacobs and Brad Mcquaid.

Now, if people are so sure this game is complete shit and doomed to fail, why still linger in this thread? There are some sweet cartoon voxel games you can go discuss, or WOW in space...

PS, I hope I cross your mind when you break down and buy this off Steam next spring
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Dumar_sl

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Guys, just reporting back with my experience in archery, and lemme sum it up in one word: A-MAZING. Remember this is just beta, so they'll be making it even better. You guys that enjoy playing stealth and archer classes in TES will be enjoying it in a massively multiplayer online world for just a small sub fee. Think about that. Excited yet?

Have you guys preordered yet? I would be in line RIGHT NOW if you haven't.
 

TecKnoe

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Guys, just reporting back with my experience in archery, and lemme sum it up in one word: A-MAZING. Remember this is just beta, so they'll be making it even better. You guys that enjoy playing stealth and archer classes in TES will be enjoying it in a massively multiplayer online world for just a small sub fee. Think about that. Excited yet?

Have you guys preordered yet? I would be in line RIGHT NOW if you haven't.
do i get beta if i preorder?
 

Quaid

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Like I said... First person 2 handed combat was pretty good... I'd even go as far as calling it 'fun'. Does this game deserve the money it is inevitably going to make? Probably not. Is it the most promising MMO release planned for 2014 that I have played?

So far... Yes...
 

Lord Blanco_sl

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i used a bow and it owned. loved knocking kids off horses, doing ranged interupts and putting DoTs on people. Will most def implement it into my build
 

Grim1

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Yes, because someone like Elidroth, and the thousands of other people working in the industry, wield enormous power and have massive control over the direction of the comparative tiny number of MMOs that are released. We are also all extremely rich, very good looking, and have huge dongs.
Lol, it was meant half in jest and I thought was obvious hyperbole. Of course I don't think getting everyone fired or breeding devs from zygotes in a secluded room is going to save mmo's.

But there is a serious issue in game developement that has everyone copy / pasting the last game they worked on. Especially in mmos. Even you inside the forest should be able to see that.
 

Grim1

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Even in the MMO threads you come off like a Teahadist who just wants to tear everything down
You're still butthurt for jumping the gun last time I see. Since you obviously have no clue what you are talking about or about my history in these threads, why don't you go back to the political section where life is sooooo balanced and unbiased....

Keep it out of here.
 

Grim1

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Like I said... First person 2 handed combat was pretty good... I'd even go as far as calling it 'fun'. Does this game deserve the money it is inevitably going to make? Probably not. Is it the most promising MMO release planned for 2014 that I have played?

So far... Yes...
Most people here are pretty solidly against the game, and their reasons seem valid. But on other forums (that are not so jaded) there is a lot of excitement from the general populace.

My "guess" is that the people here are probably pretty close to being right. The fanboys in general gaming threads usually are not critical enough. But I'll play the game for myself when it is released and make my own judgments. I hope it isn't as bad as so many here seem to indicate and that I'll have the experience you have found.
 

Erronius

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You're still butthurt for jumping the gun last time I see. Since you obviously have no clue what you are talking about or about my history in these threads, why don't you go back to the political section where life is sooooo balanced and unbiased....

Keep it out of here.
Wait, weren't you the whiny bitch that threw up the white flag and started sending me PMs?

LOL
 

Grim1

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Wait, weren't you the whiny bitch that threw up the white flag and started sending me PMs?

LOL
I sent you a PM because there wasn't any point to your bs posts to me in this thread. Just like now. Do you have anything about this game to talk about? If not then take it to PMs, where we all can ignore your pathetic attempt for attention.
 

Laura

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ESO was a bad idea from the very moment they've announced it.
I don't know how some publishers still feel there's potential market for an orthadox MMORPG.
Blizzard canceled their MMO project and SOE scratched their designed twice. That tells you something.

Wait, weren't you the whiny bitch that threw up the white flag and started sending me PMs?

LOL
Cthulhu throwing irrelevant ad-hominem posts which serve no purpose, whatsoever, to the topic of the thread and only makes the Ancient One sound a little bit insecure?

What happened??
 

Erronius

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I sent you a PM because there wasn't any point to your bs posts to me in this thread. Just like now. Do you have anything about this game to talk about? If not then take it to PMs, where we all can ignore your pathetic attempt for attention.
God damn, you are one thin-skinned whiny bitch, LOL. How long before you send me another PM that I won't open?

All we need now is Laura to pop in here and start her crying too.

irrelevant ad-hominem posts
makes the Ancient One sound a little bit insecure?
fucking LOL
 

Laura

Lord Nagafen Raider
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God damn, you are one thin-skinned whiny bitch, LOL. How long before you send me another PM that I won't open?

All we need now is Laura to pop in here and start her crying too.




fucking LOL
*facepalm* I didn't know Cthulhu had a tiny penis.
Being extremely defensive (as in "LOL!! LOL!! I fart in your general direction!" kind of comeback
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) is a sign of weakness, my dear Erronius.