Age of Conan. I have not seen anything other than that which is so blatant. In Warhammer Online, i knew the game was unfinished because i could see it in the beta.
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Utnayan
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Even though Ut is the Zealot King, he is basically innocent until proven guilty. You basically have no proof that there is any high level content. This "debunking" crap is pretty pointless considering that most gamers, including the hardcore cray crays here, have considered far better mmo's than this as incomplete or unfinished. I personally don't see a game like SWTOR as unfinished, but its complete lack of end-game content had it marked as unfinished by the masses.
I don't know if this is your first rodeo or not, but the writing is on the wall for me. This game's release is just around the corner and 1-17 still has game breaking bugs that require a server reset to fix. If you want to be a cash cow spouting off that "It's a stress test guys!" then more power to you. The content that these devs are releasing is really pitiful and it's painful to watch loyal fans and guys like shoddycast put more effort into putting a positive spin on their game (which is far more effort than the devs are putting in.)
I thought them breaking their own lore in search of a money grab with their Imperial Edition would at least make you bat an eyelash, but I guess not.
When a game's designers are showing you everything EXCEPT actual footage of the game, it's time for you to swap out of ostrich stance, pull your fucking head out of the ground and then pop your sprint booking it in the opposite direction.
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That's the thing, in the vast majority of games, it alreadyismore lucrative to group. You and others are trying to argue the point that it isn't lucrativeenough. My point of contention with that, is that as long as solo play remains a viable option for all classes, I think the majority of players are going to choose to take that route. If you make ittoolucrative, it then becomes the only viable option, at which point, you might as well just force grouping/interdependency from the onset.
To bring up EQ again, look at how many people chose soloing in that game. In almost every conceivable way, it was by far a worse/less efficient option. Yet, many classes who were capable of it, did it almost exclusively. Why? Well, because most people would rather not deal with the risk/annoyance that grouping entails, they were antisocial, too lazy/unwilling to socialize, etc.
He has lied countless times about being in the closed beta. Its fairly obvious to the couple of us who are he is making stuff up. He confirmed my suspicion was correct with his blatantly incorrect statements about addons. You can add his recent comments about 17+ level content to the list as well.
Utnayan
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Well, that, or they had about an hour to play, logged out at a solo camp spot, it was open, and knew that by the time they traveled to their zone, waited on list, got in a group, and down to the camp spot, they were already 2 hours passed the amount they should have played.
But I see your point too. There are times I just decided to solo from 32 to 34 - a 16 hour play session on a Saturday, camping those two treants in NK. I always had OOC and shout to keep me entertained. And for some reason, just felt like not being responsible for being in a group, because being in a group meant more back then. Jesus. 16 hour play sessions. Thinking about that now is nuts.
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I guess you guys missed what happened to Utnayan yesterday. Try reading pyksel's posts
That shit has been done for years in this industry: they get a fairly bug-free starter area done, put 1 or 2 interesting mechanics in but they make sure you can' play past a certain level, because the game past those levels is nowhere near the quality of the starter area. Next, they start handing out thousands of beta keys for "stress tests". These stress tests are mostly a marketing ploy to get word of mouth and beta impressions to the masses. Ok, they stress test their server architecture, but imho that comes second these days.
Seriously a company like Funcom has been doing this for years with every MMO they launch; arguably the worst offender was Age of Conan: 2 weeks before release I was a level 80 in the final beta wondering how the hell I ever got there because the level 60+ zones were so goddamn empty or buggy. Read "empty" as devoid of content.
Then they did the same with The Secret World (a game I loved btw because it offered a fresh take on MMORPG's, though it was/is managed in the same fashion), past Kingsmouth (the starter area) shit would get buggy, the content quality would decline and I hated the Egypt zones. The DLC's (another stupid invention) were fun and well tought out for a change, but honestly I don't think DLC's have a fucking place in MMO's in the first place.
The day someone has the balls to fight this kind of management in a class action law suit and wins, we can all rejoice. It will probably also be the day this genre finally dies.
No, i can read, unlike you. I've seen you flip flop in this thread more than a fish out of water, and the sad thing is that fish will stay alive longer than you will be playing this game after release. I play fun games that have actual replayability and that are worth my money. You should try it sometime.I guess you guys missed what happened to Utnayan yesterday. Try reading pyksel's posts
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Tuco
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Blackwulf and Utnayan are two sides of the same coin. Utnayan is basically throwing darts, seeing what sticks when NDA breakers confirm or deny it and also trying to privately communicate with people to get them to spill the beans so he can post it and drop names as if he is some kind of insider instead of a fraud. Blackwulf is very likely to be some kind of shill, probably for a stupid reason.
So instead of believing what you read about me catching Utnayan telling several lies (and other posters confirming it), do you believe him and think I work for Zenimax?
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It's fine, call me a shill. I've been consistently in favor of this game since day 1. I like Firor for daoc. I love elder scrolls. I like most of the design decisions in this game. All that aside, the number one reason I like posting positive things here is that it's fun to argue with goofballs like Utnayan.
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I don't throw darts. If I post it, I know it.
As stated before, and something I should have stuck to but will from now on, that's my final say on the matter.
You are right on half of that though. Blackwulf is a paid shill.
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I'm gonna ask for a raise myself . I just got told I am now in charge of designing the level 18+ content that Utnayan claims isn't finished. Anyone have any special requests? Make it simple because I only have 6 weeks to create it.
I've never seen someone so random and so wrong at the same time as you are right now. But your delusional rantings are funny so please continue.