The Higher Education Thread: Justify Poor Life Choices

Sadre Spinegnawer · Dec 30, 2020

Falxy-US said:
My take is that college is useful, but so many of the classes are wastes of time/money. Most people finance college so you're paying for retarded classes that we don't need just to keep some humanities professor employed. I did biological sciences, why did I need two history classes, history of rock and roll, multiple english classes, etc. I'm sure I could have knocked 1.5 yrs off my degree if not for such stupid classes.

welll... it depends how the prof runs the class. There are a lot of boring fucks out there. Oh sure, if they are a specialist in X and you really want to dig into X, well it's good for you. But if you just want a class that delivers aoe c2, you have to hunt those down, seriously. I took a class on St Augustine, just St. Augustine. Professor was a major scholar. BUT, he also ran a great class, and I do not regret one second of that class.

But you know how that is, right? So I would counter, it is partially on the student to hunt down the solid classes. I'm sorry your humanities professors were weak sauce.

But as Augustine would wonder, did the classes suck because they sucked, or did they suck because you sucked, you wanted it to suck?

This is the famous "stolen pears" analogy. As a boisterous youth Augustine had stolen some pears. Years later he realized that his crime was not that he stole the pears, but that he wanted to do something, anything, that sucked. He did not even want the pears. And that, he realized, really sucked.

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But these places still are fuckin messed up. THIS is like a Himalayas of fuckery. Enjoy. Evidence entered, your honor: suggestion, nuke it all.

A Student Mob Took Over Bryn Mawr. The College Said Thank You

Anyone who sought to attend class, go to the dining hall, or even turn in schoolwork was denounced as a “scab,” and often faced acts of bullying.

quillette.com

edit: jeez. google "stolen pears." I swear on all that is holy I actually have that info in my head. Thnx to the late Dr. Peter Manchester for the pre-intrawebs infoz.

edit 2: I took two classes with this dude as an undergrad. He passed away 2015. But read this from his obit:

Screenshot_2020-12-30 Stony Brook professor dies at 72.png

That can easily turn into a lot of BS real fast, in the wrong hands. Trust me I know all too well. All I can tell you is, there are real deals out there. And, they are not a waste and it would be foolish as society to regard them as such. That is how we turn into China. China has no art. No literature. No political science or history departments that are not propoganda mills for the CCP. But they are going to have fantastic engineering schools. Big fuckin deal, I say. Can they intelligently debate whether or not time is a place where what happens in eternity is manifest?

No. No they cannot.

moonarchia · Dec 31, 2020

Sadre Spinegnawer said:
welll... it depends how the prof runs the class. There are a lot of boring fucks out there. Oh sure, if they are a specialist in X and you really want to dig into X, well it's good for you. But if you just want a class that delivers aoe c2, you have to hunt those down, seriously. I took a class on St Augustine, just St. Augustine. Professor was a major scholar. BUT, he also ran a great class, and I do not regret one second of that class.

But you know how that is, right? So I would counter, it is partially on the student to hunt down the solid classes. I'm sorry your humanities professors were weak sauce.

But as Augustine would wonder, did the classes suck because they sucked, or did they suck because you sucked, you wanted it to suck?

This is the famous "stolen pears" analogy. As a boisterous youth Augustine had stolen some pears. Years later he realized that his crime was not that he stole the pears, but that he wanted to do something, anything, that sucked. He did not even want the pears. And that, he realized, really sucked.

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But these places still are fuckin messed up. THIS is like a Himalayas of fuckery. Enjoy. Evidence entered, your honor: suggestion, nuke it all.

A Student Mob Took Over Bryn Mawr. The College Said Thank You

Anyone who sought to attend class, go to the dining hall, or even turn in schoolwork was denounced as a “scab,” and often faced acts of bullying.

quillette.com

edit: jeez. google "stolen pears." I swear on all that is holy I actually have that info in my head. Thnx to the late Dr. Peter Manchester for the pre-intrawebs infoz.

edit 2: I took two classes with this dude as an undergrad. He passed away 2015. But read this from his obit:
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That can easily turn into a lot of BS real fast, in the wrong hands. Trust me I know all too well. All I can tell you is, there are real deals out there. And, they are not a waste and it would be foolish as society to regard them as such. That is how we turn into China. China has no art. No literature. No political science or history departments that are not propoganda mills for the CCP. But they are going to have fantastic engineering schools. Big fuckin deal, I say. Can they intelligently debate whether or not time is a place where what happens in eternity is manifest?

No. No they cannot.

Awful lot of sucking going on in this post.

Sadre Spinegnawer · Dec 31, 2020

moonarchia said:
Awful lot of sucking going on in this post.

yeah. that was weak. ah well. it's appropriate. 2020 has been the worst year in US higher ed since the volatile Vietnam years. But this is magnitudes worse now. Because really, college is now at best an expensive educational resort. There are thousands of ways to gain expertise and fill one's mind today. For free. So, bye-bye late 20th century model of higher education. It will still exist but as I said: an expensive educational resort. Like equestrian school.

It is mainly -- mainly -- simply about technology. The internet is a "invention of the printing press" scale of invention. It completely upsets the old model. You know what was the internet pre-1990ish? The university library. it was open nearly 24/7, because one never knew when one would need to find something out. And good students went no matter the weather. It as an actual academic edge to not give a fuck about the weather back then -- after all, the best reference books are gonna be available if it's a blizzard outside. I actually would think that way.

Now everything is instanced and ptw.

yeah, this post sucks too. goddamit it, i'm in a rut.

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The Higher Education Thread: Justify Poor Life Choices

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A Student Mob Took Over Bryn Mawr. The College Said Thank You

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A Student Mob Took Over Bryn Mawr. The College Said Thank You

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