All he had to do is give "The Hobbit" the same love and passion that he gave when he made the LOTR, which he obviously didn't. Fuck people who are trying to make excuses for him. And no, he didn't rape my childhood or any other dumb shit, he just lowered his standards when he made these movies, and I refuse to lower mine in order to enjoy them.
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (2014)
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Peter Jackson though tries to come off as the hero of the nerds. I don't mind him making money, and lots of it. He could have done that with one movie. This though? Just muddied up the movies so he could spread it out. Everyone wanted a concise Hobbit movie that told the story we love. Instead we have a convoluted mess you need a translator to explain that this or that story was from the Silmarillion.
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i really think jackson thinks he put the same effort into the hobbit as he did with LOTR. have you seen those "making of" videos during the filming of the hobbit? there was some hardcore shit going on there with his location shoots. he put in the effort, you cant say he pulled a lucas and said "fuck it, put everyone in front of the green screen and the idiots will never notice" on the prequels. i am not disagreeing with people that say 3 movies is a blatant cash grab, it fucking is and everyone knows it including jackson. what i am saying is, that jackson didnt set out to fuck people, he went in trying to make the best movie that he could and for whatever reason his original one or 2 movie plan morphed into 3 movies.
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I think the problem here is, they are not complete failures. we can watch Starars prequels and say, they are a complete clusterfuck. These however.. Cut out all the bullshit, and their would be a good faithful creation..
Seriously, after all 3 are out, and Im pretty sure someone is going to go through and re-edit them down to 1 or 2 movies without all Sauron shit.
It's a comparable amount of over-zealotry between Jackson and Lucas regarding their respective "prequels". They both clearly hadtheir visionwhich their previous success gave them the hubris to ignore sensible criticism. The biggest difference is Jackson had much better source material.
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He'll probably have to make a time machine first to go back and off Christopher Tolkien before he has a chance to so thoroughly piss the man off.
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Yawned at this trailer. Boooring series.
Wasn't Bilbo knocked out for the whole battle anyways?
Wasn't Bilbo knocked out for the whole battle anyways?
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He simply got too big for his boots on script changes, perhaps over it was confidence.
Fellowship of the Ring 's changes were pretty much perfect IMO (perhaps slightly too much mystical elvish bullshit with Arwen) but the others have major flaws (full retard on elvish mystical bullshit for one).
Fellowship of the Ring 's changes were pretty much perfect IMO (perhaps slightly too much mystical elvish bullshit with Arwen) but the others have major flaws (full retard on elvish mystical bullshit for one).
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To me, the big difference between The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit movies is what he got wrong. In LotR he got a bunch of little stuff wrong, but the important stuff was mostly right so it all worked. In The Hobbit, most of the little things are pretty spot on, but the big scenes are just pure retarded fuckery.
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The sad thing is that Legolos is the one cameo which makes sense, have him leading the elf party in the wood from the book/sat at his fathers side not speaking and then he can take part in the battle at the end. Stick that interaction with Gloin in somewhere. Job done.
The book has already been written and been successful, it is what we want to see. It's not lazy to just follow the fucking thing. Legolas isn't a major character.
The book has already been written and been successful, it is what we want to see. It's not lazy to just follow the fucking thing. Legolas isn't a major character.
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Do we? If you've read both you know where each has been drawn from. If you haven't then it's irrelevant. I get that purists wanted the unabridged version that mirrored the book. However there are plenty of people who are happy for more stories of middle earth hitting the big screen
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This is probably the best way to say it for me, too. I think it's mostly the departures, but it isn't - I don't expect to see the book when I go see a movie. There are a bunch of things, but I just didn't enjoy the first two.
The only thing the "purists" wanted was a Hobbit movie(s) that didn't suck. What makes "The Hobbit" great is it's just a simple story. It was perfect the way it was. The best analogy I can think of is Peter Jackson basically had "True Detective" and made it into "Paul Blart."
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What makes me hate this is the ridiculous action scenes (the fat whirlwind dwarf, the dwarves all falling 8,000,000 feet in the first movie and being crushed by a falling giant, etc), the extremely noticable green screen and fake props, the shitty CGI models, etc. The shitty sets were extremely noticable in 3DHFR.
If the additions were anything of quality we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's not even really the Necromancer stuff that is bothersome, it's everything else done so improperly.