The Hunger Games: Catching Fire

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fucker_sl

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no. It's an anime, with all the anime's good and bad characteristics, in live action. You can accept lot of stuff in the animated version because your suspention fo disbelief is higher. The same things will make you roll your eyes when you have real actors

unless it's a comedy anime. Then the effect is reversed
 

Caliane

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Which... is a movie.
I'm not sure you understand what I was saying.

It has all the anime cliches. again, for better or worse. Good visual action. some really stupid emo cliche characters. Some, decent characters. The power of friendship and young love. etc.
 

khalid

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It has all the anime cliches. again, for better or worse. Good visual action. some really stupid emo cliche characters. Some, decent characters. The power of friendship and young love. etc.
Ah, okay, I see what you were saying.

Anyway, I am sick of the "lol watch Battle Royale" douches. Hunger Games is a different property and I can certainly see why a person would like one and dislike the other and vice versa. I personally didn't enjoy Battle Royale and I liked The Hunger Games books. Up until the 3rd one, which was fucking horrible. It was shocking to me how bad the 3rd book was compared to the other two.
 

Big Phoenix

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Is the book significantly different from the movie? Considering I fell asleep at the end of the movie I really dont understand this thing.
 

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This is key. I'm confused by so many people seemingly expecting these books and movies to be better than the Twilight saga. They're shitty, YA literature and therefore the movies are shitty, YA films.
 

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I think the community here is pretty harsh on this stuff. I'd call the books overrated in that they reached a level where all of my 28-32 year old female friends decided they were incredible when they really aren't, but I also wouldn't call them horrible. Especially for the intended audience.

The movie was a pretty accurate depiction from that book. Neither are amazing. Nor are they horrible.
 

BrutulTM

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Professional reviews of both the books and movie are overwhelmingly positive. It's just hipsterism saying that they suck.
 

Rod-138

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I actually wanted to be cool and dislike the movie, but after I saw it I was like, meh that was alright. hell, that was kinda cool. shit, she was kinda hot.

I had also been on a 9-10 Korean/Japanese movie bender over that last 2 weeks and had forgotten that it was a luxury to not read subtitles constantly.
 

chaos

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Professional reviews of both the books and movie are overwhelmingly positive. It's just hipsterism saying that they suck.
Bullshit bro, the books are not good. At all. I like a lot of cheesy stuff. I am really into this new Hemlock Grove thing. The Hunger Games books are terrible and anyone who thinks they are good should feel bad.

But the movie really wasn't bad.
 

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These people's opinions > yours.

Critical reception

The Hunger Games has been well received by critics. In a review for The New York Times, John Green wrote that the novel was "brilliantly plotted and perfectly paced", and that "the considerable strength of the novel comes in Collins's convincingly detailed world-building and her memorably complex and fascinating heroine." However, he also noted that, while allegorically rich, the book sometimes does not realize the allegorical potential that the plot has to offer and that the writing "described the action and little else."[28] Time magazine's review was also positive, stating that it "is a chilling, bloody and thoroughly horrifying book" and praising what it called the "hypnotic" quality of the violence.[29] In Stephen King's review for Entertainment Weekly, he compared it to "shoot-it-if-it-moves videogames in the lobby of the local eightplex; you know it's not real, but you keep plugging in quarters anyway." However, he stated that there were "displays of authorial laziness that kids will accept more readily than adults" and that the love triangle was standard for the genre. He gave the book an overall B grade.[30] Elizabeth Bird of School Library Journal praised the novel, saying it is "exciting, poignant, thoughtful, and breathtaking by turns". The review also called it one of the best books of 2008.[31] Booklist also gave a positive review, praising the character violence and romance involved in the book.[32] Kirkus Reviews gave a positive review, praising the action and world-building, but pointed out that "poor copyediting in the first printing will distract careful readers-a crying shame".[33] Rick Riordan, author of the Percy Jackson & the Olympians series, claims it is the "closest thing to a perfect adventure novel" he has ever read.[34] Stephenie Meyer (author of the Twilight series) endorsed the book on her website, saying, "I was so obsessed with this book . The Hunger Games is amazing."[35]

The novel has been criticized for its similarities to the 1999 novel Battle Royale, by Koushun Takami. Collins has stated, "I had never heard of that book or that author until my book was turned in. At that point, it was mentioned to me, and I asked my editor if I should read it. He said: 'No, I don't want that world in your head. Just continue with what you're doing'." Susan Dominus of The New York Times reports that "the parallels are striking enough that Collins's work has been savaged on the blogosphere as a baldfaced ripoff," but argued that "there are enough possible sources for the plot line that the two authors might well have hit on the same basic setup independently."[36] King noted that the reality TV "badlands" were similar to Battle Royale, as well as his own The Running Man and The Long Walk.[30] Eric Eisenberg wrote that The Hunger Games was "not a rip off [of Battle Royale], but simply a different usage of a similar idea", pointing out various differences in both story and themes.[37] Robert Nishimura wrote that "The Hunger Games has an entirely different set of cultural baggage ... Collins just happened to tap in to the creative collective consciousness, drawing on ideas that have played out many times before, in addition to her intentional reference to Greek mythology."[38] The novel has also been controversial with parents;[39] it ranked in fifth place on the American Library Association's list of frequently challenged books for 2010, with "unsuited to age group" and "violence" being among the reasons cited.[40]

The Hunger Games received many awards and honors. It was named one of Publishers Weekly's "Best Books of the Year" in 2008[41] and a The New York Times "Notable Children's Book of 2008".[42] It was the 2009 winner of the Golden Duck Award in the Young Adult Fiction Category.[43] The Hunger Games was also a "2008 Cybil Winner" for fantasy and science-fiction books along with The Graveyard Book.[44] It is also one of School Library Journal's "Best Books 2008"[45] and a "Booklist Editors' Choice" in 2008.[46] In 2011, the book won the California Young Reader Medal.[47] In the 2012 edition of Scholastic's Parent and Child magazine, The Hunger Games was listed as the 33rd-best book for children, with the award for "Most Exciting Ending".[48][49] The novel is one of the top 5 best selling Kindle books of all time.[50]
 

chaos

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Tyler Perry's movies get positive reviews. Critics don't know shit. The books are not good.

I pretty much agree with what Stephen King said in your quote. It is a book for kids with kid sensibilities and contains shit writing that adults should not be ok with. I think the movies vastly improved on the books by strengthening Katniss and doing away with the internal monologue, among other changes.
 

chaos

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I would put it at a B too, for kids. When I was a kid I would have thought it was good.
 

Big Phoenix

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I just didnt understand wtf was going on through out all of the movie.

Why were they poor staving backwoods farmers?
Why did they have to fight?
Why were "sponsors" so important when they didnt do anything(sending neosporin doesnt count)?
Why the hell was Donald Sutherland in this movie?

I mean it was an average movie, no idea why people said it was soo good.
 

fucker_sl

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because the brainless mass liked the book. so you have to say the movie is great or you get marginalized

it's the same with every shitty book-made-movie that had worldwide success. Twlight, davinci code, Eragon etc etc

i will put harry potter movies in it too just to prove the point from your reactions :p
 

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I enjoyed the books well enough, knowing they weren't ever going to be nominated for something like a Hugo or Nebula award. I also enjoyed the Dan Brown books well enough for what they were. And Harry Potter, since he mentioned them. I hated Twilight and never read Eragon. The third Hunger Games definitely took a big drop in making me want to finish it, but overall I'm glad I read them and wasn't cursing the author the whole time like it seems some of you were. I get it, I've read plenty of books that I absolutely dreaded finishing (three quite recently in fact), many of which were loved by tons of other people. But if you like the premise even a little bit, I don't think you'll be disappointed by the Hunger Games books. If that's not your thing or you demand "high literature" from your authors, you're probably going to hate it.

The movie wasn't as good as the book to me, but I enjoyed it. I won't be seeing the next two in the theater, however, simply because I wasn't blown away by the first one in the theater. I'll still watch them and probably enjoy them to an extent.
 

Fazana_sl

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The first book was okay, the second book descended into a mess and the third book was just awful, they are really going to have to scrabble around to make anything watchable out of that shite to finish the series. I wouldn't be surprised if they just plain decide to World War Z book three and do their own shit.