The Joe Rogan Experience (JRE)

There's a lot that have been decent, but they've been current event podcasts for the most part, so I don't think they'd age very well.

Araysar said:

Ben Shapiro one was decent, but its typical Shapiro stuff on current events. I do like his measured takes on the events but he doesnt shy away from the red pills

Oliver Stone one was pretty unremarkable. Stone talked a lot about Vietnam and making of Platoon, but its all stuff you could read on Wikipedia, nothing new or interesting. Pretty run of the mill.

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Shapiro shitting on joggers was great, but I was eyerolling at what a weasly fucking Jew he is when it came to the China Lung/mask stuff.

Araysar said:

the last few guests have been shitty so ive been listening to older ones that i never got to hear: Rob Zombie, Gary Vaynerchuk, James Hetfield, etc.

good stuff.

anyone can think of some other really good ones from 2015-2019?

i tried listening to the Macaulay Culkin one but his mannerisms just kept annoying me so i turned it off after 10 minutes.

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I find that on science topics, Joe needs a good speaker opposite him or it just turns into endless Joe's opinion sidetracks. Brian Greene, Lawrence Krauss, and Brian Cox were all good in that regard.

Some other ones I liked:
Megan Phelps (ex-God Hates Fags church)
Steve-O was really fun and interesting too, much more than I expected.
Louis Theroux (actual investigative journalism)
Penn Jillette
Rhonda Patrick (health & nutrition science)

“What about a protest about educating people on their immune system”

aaaaaaaaaand I’m never listening again

Araysar said:

Ben Shapiro one was decent, but its typical Shapiro stuff on current events. I do like his measured takes on the events but he doesnt shy away from the red pills

Oliver Stone one was pretty unremarkable. Stone talked a lot about Vietnam and making of Platoon, but its all stuff you could read on Wikipedia, nothing new or interesting. Pretty run of the mill.

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ben is great in short bursts. Because he makes great points, calls shit as it is and isn’t afraid tocall out bullshit in minority and liberal communities, but the longer he goes you realize he’s great at telling you your shit stinks but when asked why he falls into the same BS Reagan Republican boot strap shit.

“poor people are poor because they are bad with money”.

He aren’t wrong. But there are about 50 factors before that we could talk about but all that will get clipped is that and then liberals will call him a boot licker or whatever fags say these days.He was at his best at a debate about racism when he went off about the decline in 2 parent households, high school graduation and rise on teen pregnancy since the end of the civil rights movement and how that’s a culture thing that needs to be addressed in the black community and completely shut up a couple black professors

The whole "i'm going to Texas because of capitalism and freedom but still voting for Bernie" shtick has gotten pretty fucking old to me. He's not really some free-thinking observer, he's just inconsistent.

Still like the comedian stuff, but the political episodes are frustrating.

Nobody is consistent, if that's what you're looking for I wish you luck. I think that when Joe talks about "freedom" in this respect he probably isn't talking about the same thing you are.

idk, I get it, people have been talking for years about the homelessness issue in LA but it doesn't seem like anyone does anything about it, or even agree on the cause. I can see wanting to move away from that, I think about moving away from DC all the time. And parts of Texas aren't bad, I'm sure he'll love it.

I thought Shapiro was exactly what I expected when I saw Shapiro was on there. I didn't watch the whole thing, though. It always disappoints me, the right wing reaction in this country to civil rights. I wish we had more parties. Particularly when they spent like 20 minutes discussing the history of civil rights and slavery, police brutality, jim crow, etc and the impact on current day, then when he asks Shapiro what he would do if he were Pres, his first answer is to crack down with police. Geez, if only previous presidents had thought about widespread incarceration in poverty stricken neighborhoods to drive down crime rates. He addresses the problem, he names off several possible (or contributing) causes, then is like "But we should make things way worse".

a_skeleton_06 said:

I think the point is valid. People think that staying inside and wearing a mask made of old pajama pants is going to get them through this Covid thing. Instead, take some vitamins, get more sleep and water and getting outdoor exercise to help help boost your immune system and make you an overall healthier person that is less susceptible to this thing.

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I don’t disagree with it. But he literally brings it up every episode. And I can even live with that. But the statement “protest about immune education “ isjust peak joe

chaos said:

Nobody is consistent, if that's what you're looking for I wish you luck. I think that when Joe talks about "freedom" in this respect he probably isn't talking about the same thing you are.

idk, I get it, people have been talking for years about the homelessness issue in LA but it doesn't seem like anyone does anything about it, or even agree on the cause. I can see wanting to move away from that, I think about moving away from DC all the time. And parts of Texas aren't bad, I'm sure he'll love it.

I thought Shapiro was exactly what I expected when I saw Shapiro was on there. I didn't watch the whole thing, though. It always disappoints me, the right wing reaction in this country to civil rights. I wish we had more parties. Particularly when they spent like 20 minutes discussing the history of civil rights and slavery, police brutality, jim crow, etc and the impact on current day, then when he asks Shapiro what he would do if he were Pres, his first answer is to crack down with police. Geez, if only previous presidents had thought about widespread incarceration in poverty stricken neighborhoods to drive down crime rates. He addresses the problem, he names off several possible (or contributing) causes, then is like "But we should make things way worse".

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people are pieces of shit. It’s the cause of capitalism’s problems. It’s the cause of socialism’s problems. It’s the cause of crime, drug abuse, and homelessness. People are shit and some people aregoing to be extra shitty. I don’t know what you think we can do to fix that. That’s why as I get older and more jaded I just agree with scooping up homeless people and throwing them on furnaces.

Breakdown said:

people are pieces of shit. It’s the cause of capitalism’s problems. It’s the cause of socialism’s problems. It’s the cause of crime, drug abuse, and homelessness. People are shit and some people aregoing to be extra shitty. I don’t know what you think we can do to fix that. That’s why as I get older and more jaded I just agree with scooping up homeless people and throwing them on furnaces.

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idk. If you believe Dr Drew and others they say the homelessness (and associated drug abuse) issues are more mental health issues than anything. We could just treat them. There's a lot of issues that we kind of chalk up to mental health issues int he US, but then we don't do anything about mental health issues. Vanessa wants us to empower psychologists to cut baby dicks off, meanwhile untold thousands of people go without mental health treatment. Which, thinking of it, might be for the best...

I used to think that everyone was at least trying to move the ball forward, but I was a naive child. Some people want things to be fucked up. More than should.

Post "What if aliens control their guns with their booty holes" Malone, he's the rapper with the shit on his face. No, the white one. No, the other one.

I'm an hour into this, apparently 4 fucking hour podcast. I'm right at the part where Joe Rogan and Post Malone, high on mushrooms watching Necrogoblikon videos on youtube, postulate that the lead singer might be a real goblin, or an alien, or both. So it's pretty good.

chaos said:

Nobody is consistent, if that's what you're looking for I wish you luck. I think that when Joe talks about "freedom" in this respect he probably isn't talking about the same thing you are.

idk, I get it, people have been talking for years about the homelessness issue in LA but it doesn't seem like anyone does anything about it, or even agree on the cause. I can see wanting to move away from that, I think about moving away from DC all the time. And parts of Texas aren't bad, I'm sure he'll love it.

I thought Shapiro was exactly what I expected when I saw Shapiro was on there. I didn't watch the whole thing, though. It always disappoints me, the right wing reaction in this country to civil rights. I wish we had more parties. Particularly when they spent like 20 minutes discussing the history of civil rights and slavery, police brutality, jim crow, etc and the impact on current day, then when he asks Shapiro what he would do if he were Pres, his first answer is to crack down with police. Geez, if only previous presidents had thought about widespread incarceration in poverty stricken neighborhoods to drive down crime rates. He addresses the problem, he names off several possible (or contributing) causes, then is like "But we should make things way worse".

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This is just asinine. He specifically says (on this podcast and the others he has said it as well) that there is absolutely no way you can decrease the crime in a high-crime area without an increase in police presence. It is a simple fact and if you think otherwise then you are living in a fantasy land. He specifically acknowledges that the increase in policing has to go hand in hand with a more community focused police force that actively and publicly purges itself of its bad elements, and can't just be the same old policing we've been seeing for decades but with more officers. I'm not sure who you've been listening to, but Shapiro (and most conservatives his age, like me) has constantly espoused the version of civil rights were everyone should have equality of opportunity no matter what their race/creed/beliefs but that you simply cannot give any group preferential treatment because it defies the very idea of civil rights. Additionally, once you give a single group special treatment then you have no leg to stand on with any other group. So while slavery was abhorrent and caused lasting damage in black communities, the only cure to keep America whole is to continuously work to ensure that all black people are afforded equality of opportunity the same as everyone else of any other color. If you think that we should treat people specially due to the color of their skin, then that is your prerogative but it is silly to act like it is some insane view of civil rights that is at odds with the values and morals upon which this country was founded.....admittedly by men who did not live up to those morals and values in their time.

LiquidDeath said:

This is just asinine. He specifically says (on this podcast and the others he has said it as well) that there is absolutely no way you can decrease the crime in a high-crime area without an increase in police presence. It is a simple fact and if you think otherwise then you are living in a fantasy land. He specifically acknowledges that the increase in policing has to go hand in hand with a more community focused police force that actively and publicly purges itself of its bad elements, and can't just be the same old policing we've been seeing for decades but with more officers. I'm not sure who you've been listening to, but Shapiro (and most conservatives his age, like me) has constantly espoused the version of civil rights were everyone should have equality of opportunity no matter what their race/creed/beliefs but that you simply cannot give any group preferential treatment because it defies the very idea of civil rights. Additionally, once you give a single group special treatment then you have no leg to stand on with any other group. So while slavery was abhorrent and caused lasting damage in black communities, the only cure to keep America whole is to continuously work to ensure that all black people are afforded equality of opportunity the same as everyone else of any other color. If you think that we should treat people specially due to the color of their skin, then that is your prerogative but it is silly to act like it is some insane view of civil rights that is at odds with the values and morals upon which this country was founded.....admittedly by men who did not live up to those morals and values in their time.

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I'm not addressing his other work, I don't know enough about it, only what he said on Rogan. They talked at length about the issues in these communites, the generation-spanning issues. Shapiro specifically brought up his grandfather and the role model he was, but when Rogan asks "yeah but what if your grandfather was a fuckup" he doesn't really have an answer to that. They talk at length about the harm of broken families, communities without male role models, poverty, on and on, but again, when asked if you were king of the world what would you do Shapiro's first answer was a huge increase to policing. If you're saying "yeah well he said this but meant that" sounds about like me saying "yeah I know they said defund the police but they really mean these reforms" which, even if true, there's no way to know that for people who don't dig into it.

As far as what I believe, no, I don't think anyone should be treated "special", just equal. I think any kind of "reparations" projects you institute need to be income/wealth focused, applicable to everyone not just any particular race. There's no version of this shit getting better than doesn't involve some kind of answer to the generations of poverty, imprisonment, murder, etc etc etc in those communities and the impact of that, and most of that you can't really make up for, but instead it's just being made worse now, continuing the cycle. But yeah man, I do think we need some kind of huge social program in this country that actually addresses these issues on the long term, not on the election cycles, and with compassion and empathy for all involved. I'm sure monkeys are more likely to fly out of my butt, but whatever.

Kiroy said:

I've got some chicken and the egg qualms about mental health --> drug abuse or drug abuse --> mental health, but looks up the "homeless industrial complex" - Dr Drew talks about this as well. Homelessness is a new frontier, an untapped goldmine for rent seeking, cronyism, virtue signal bucks and votes (power). People with the actual power to move the ball forward on homelessness in any real way have a negative incentive to do so.

And really, think about drug/alcohol addicts, or people with severe mental health issues that have major family support systems and think how hard it is to get these folks healthy and having a reasonably meaningful life. Even if the State did want to fix this, i'm not sure it's fixable.

Personal i'd push all dollars into figuring out the trappings of how people get into a homeless situation (i'd bet a large majority is substance abuse, leading to homelessness, leading to quick and severe mental health decline). If we could stop the cycle in the abusing substance phase while making it very uncomfortable to transition into that homeless phase, that would help. Unfortunately our socially liberal areas glorify and decriminalize drug use while also providing a multi layered "safety net" almost perfectly designed to keep these people alive and healthy as they mentally decline.

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Yeah man I have no idea. We used to solve this with institutions, but those went away, now we either solve it with prisons or not at all it seems.

I'm sure there's a spectrum of severity with these people, but once you're actually homeless, especially if you have even mild mental illness or drug abuse issues, that's quite a pit to dig out of without some kind of help. Hearing Dr Drew talk about LA hospitals just dropping off mentally ill people on random street corners and shit, that's fucked up. But I don't have any answers, it's a huge, difficult problem.