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Soysauceonrice_sl said:
Well, your Messiah Snowden has terabytes of top secret information on everything the NSA does. If he had the smoking gun, my gut tells me it would have been the first thing disclosed.
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We'll your gut is wrong, he's stated already that he has data that will never get released because it will endanger people.

and 2 He has employed a strategy of releasing tidbits of information, this way the government takes a stance, then after they declare a stance he has been releasing information that shows how they are lying, the tactic works only if you pay attention apparently.

Regardless of whether you think we need an internet police or not having it secret and having them interpret supreme court level decisions in secret IS NOT the proper way to do it, it needs to be transparent and consumer and citizen protection laws need to be written to protect the anonymonity of people.

and yes this includes marketing data, it's not exactly a great idea to have large private companies do it either.
 
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Fact is you jumped on this thread and started spreading FUD. Fact is the USG is paying for folks to do just that. Even chaos hasn't gone as far as you.

Fact is you're a fucking NSA/Contractor plant. Nobody else would sit around and spew the shit you're spewing otherwise.
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Uh no. I jumped on this thread because I LOVE shitting on retarded idiots who overreact based on ignorance and misinformation. I've visited this site since the days of everquest. My registration never was cleared, and once rerolled spun off, I became a posting member. You would love for me to be a plant, you would love for me to be a troll. But everything I post is based on facts and the reading of the law. Everything YOU post is based on stupidity and basic mistrust of the government.

Tell me again how you trust companies with your private information because "they won't do anything with it."
 
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Juvarisx_sl said:
I agree clearly we need a God fearing anti socialist Republican President with these tools, I am sure he would never have abused them like this dirty socialist Obama has. Holy Christ.
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Lol. Bush jumpstarting the NSA surveillance bullshit doesn't free Obama from his responsibility for continuing and expanding the NSA and Government surveillance of US Citizens.

At this point I don't see a hell of a lot of difference between mainstream Republicans (Boehner/Bush/Ryan) and mainstream Democrats (Obama/Feinstein/Reid). The only people who seem to want to do something are the outliers on both side of the aisle like Udall and Rand
 
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Lol. Bush jumpstarting the NSA surveillance bullshit doesn't free Obama from his responsibility for continuing and expanding the NSA and Government surveillance of US Citizens.

At this point I don't see a hell of a lot of difference between mainstream Republicans (Boehner/Bush/Ryan) and mainstream Democrats (Obama/Feinstein/Reid). The only people who seem to want to do something are the outliers on both side of the aisle like Udall and Rand
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Outliers. In other words, nutbag extremists. Just ponder this, for a moment. When this entire shit blew up, DIANE FEINSTEIN thought that it wasn't a big deal, because you know, she actually chairs the intelligence committee and sees the intelligence. Marinate on that for a bit. Your overreaction trumps that of the Senate's resident overreacter-in-chief.
 
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Soysauceonrice_sl said:
You would love for me to be a plant, you would love for me to be a troll.
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Not at all, I'd love for our government to stop going full authoritarian and hiring plants like you to troll boards defending their actions.

You didn't post anything between 2-20-2013 and 8-02-2013 and you immediately started shitting up this thread. But nice try.
 
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tad10_sl said:
Not at all, I'd love for our government to stop going full authoritarian and hiring plants like you to troll boards defending their actions.

You didn't post anything between 2-20-2013 and 8-02-2013 and you immediately started shitting up this thread. But nice try.
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It's called 1) finals, and 2) studying for the bar, dipshit. The last day of the bar in Texas is 8/01/13 WHOA CONICIDENCE ?!
 
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Juvarisx_sl said:
I agree clearly we need a God fearing anti socialist Republican President with these tools, I am sure he would never have abused them like this dirty socialist Obama has. Holy Christ.
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who said obama? there's plenty of future crisis left to happen, just wait. when you look at the 18th-19th century in europe you see all kinds of crises preceding revolutions.
 
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Tad, the NSA developed the AI in EQ Next and has decided to use it as a testing ground because MMO forums are such a popular place to plant NSA spies and shills. True story, I know because they pay me to say these things.
 
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I was going to post this in science but it needs to be reminded here from time to time, the behavior tracking of these large advertising firms is what I consider a partial source of the corruption that led to nsa spying, the big data behavioral analysis techniques and devices where made for these places first then the government saw what they where doing with these large databases and networks and started to take them over, it is both a government takeover of the infrastructure network, along with the building of places like the utah center.

It is appropriate I think to reflect on how that industry operates and came to be and generally what kinds of things they are doing now.

Tracking devices hidden in London's recycling bins are stalking your smartphone

Hundreds of thousands of pedestrians walking past 12 locations unknowingly had the unique MAC address of their smartphones recorded by Renew London.

Data including the "movement, type, direction, and speed of unique devices" was recorded from smartphones that had their Wi-Fi on.
 
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Soysauceonrice_sl said:
studying for the bar
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Well, that explains it right there. Law student with one constitutional law course who treats this as an academic exercise instead of shit that is actually happening. You are like the "programmers" who heard pseudorandom number generator in some course and then start shitting up WoW threads talking about how the random number generator in WoW isn't good enough.
 
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You know, throw a cardigan on this douchebag and that's exactly how I imagine tad in my head, minus the tinfoil hat. And fyi, this moron doesn't even understand the news hes reporting. His statement, at 2:36 is:

"Is the Reuters exclusive true that the NSA data is being shared with the IRS, DEA, and other law enforcement agencies."

FAIL. Utter and absolute fail. I've already explained the Reuters report and even posted another Reuters report to explain why people like this idiot are misinterpreting the news. It's absolutely understandable for a normal person to misinterpret the facts, but this fucker is supposedly a journalist. If you're a journalist and you're going to harp on the Reuters article, you should fucking know the subject mater of the article and how it differs from the subject mater of the surveillance leaked by Snowden.

The mass phone metadata being collected by the NSA is sitting in the corner of a server somewhere. As far as we know, that shit isn't being given to ANYONE. The NSA IS one of the agencies that comprise SOD, along with the IRS, FBI, and CIA. But that doesn't mean that the NSA is sharing the Snowden disclosed intelligence with those agencies. Go to that Reuters exclusive that this dude is citing. Nowhere does it say anything about metadata, PRISM, or Snowden.

The ONLY valid constitutional issue is the fabrication of the evidence trail. But that has to do with due process and the ability of an accused to challenge incriminating evidence used against him. That has nothing to do with privacy or warrant less surveillance. For good measure, I'll repost the Reuters article that explains the difference between the DEA program and the Snowden disclosures.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9740AI20130805
 
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khalid_sl said:
Well, that explains it right there. Law student with one constitutional law course who treats this as an academic exercise instead of shit that is actually happening. You are like the "programmers" who heard pseudorandom number generator in some course and then start shitting up WoW threads talking about how the random number generator in WoW isn't good enough.
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Yea, I learned about the constitution in law school. That totally invalidates my opinion. Where'd you learn about the constitution, 4th grade history ?
 
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Soysauceonrice_sl said:
FAIL. Utter and absolute fail. I've already explained the Reuters report and even posted another Reuters report to explain why people like this idiot are misinterpreting the news.
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You're mistaking actual news with "A DEA spokesman said:", that's propaganda and it doesn't matter if you are a constitutional lawyer or not that just means you are more capable and probably more creative at self delusion than the common person.
 
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Soysauceonrice_sl said:
Yea, I learned about the constitution in law school. That totally invalidates my opinion. Where'd you learn about the constitution, 4th grade history ?
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The issue isn't your understanding of constitutional law, it is that you miss the fucking point every fucking time. You try and invalidate anyone's opinion on the constitutionality of it, saying that it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, because only case law matters. Yet we live in a democracy and even if the Supreme Court ends up finding it constitutional (like they do many things that the american public disagrees with), it is possible to pass a law still outlawing those procedures. Especially when a common sense interpretation of the 4th amendment leads one to think that it was pretty much specifically put into place to stop the kind of warrantless surveillance that is going on now. Or the president due to political backlash could back down.

Soysauceonrice_sl said:
The mass phone metadata being collected by the NSA is sitting in the corner of a server somewhere. As far as we know, that shit isn't being given to ANYONE. The NSA IS one of the agencies that comprise SOD, along with the IRS, FBI, and CIA. But that doesn't mean that the NSA is sharing the Snowden disclosed intelligence with those agencies.
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Again, an example of you being a newbie law student that listens to the letter of the law and not how shit actually works in the real world. You are hopelessly naive if you think that this data is just going to keep going into some server somewhere and never be used or shared.
 
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fanaskin_sl said:
You're mistaking actual news with "A DEA spokesman said:".
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So let me get this straight. The Reuters article is what you cite to to get your "news." But if I cite to another Reuters article, you get to selectively discard segments of that Reuters article, because you don't trust their source. Then why the fuck do I need to listen to any of their source ? Reuters says the DEA is in cahoots with the NSA, CIA, and FBI ? Nah, fuck them their source is shit anyways, they cited the government afterall !
 
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