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chaos

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If their idea of a moral is that Jim should give up his dream to go back to a job he hates in a place he barely tolerates just because his wife is afraid of change and wants to fuck the boom mic guy, then fuck this show. Seriously.
 

Triangular_sl

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If their idea of a moral is that Jim should give up his dream to go back to a job he hates in a place he barely tolerates just because his wife is afraid of change and wants to fuck the boom mic guy, then fuck this show. Seriously.
unrelated but similar pattern: Andy and Erin broke up. Erin decided chopstick is better for her. Erin breaks up with the chopstick and gets back with Andy. Andy, meanwhile, got a new girlfriend.He breaks up with that girlfriend in order to fully commit to Erin.A season pass. Erin, after those break ups, finally realizes Andy is a douche. Andy and Erin breaks up again. Again, by Erin's initiative. This show just did 360 and none of them funny.
This is bullshit.
 

ham

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I think they're trying to force him to still care about those people in some way, they're just making her do it for him. I mean he did basically pick up and go with zero fucks given since. He was a massive part of the show and that building for a long time and he's the 'hearthrob' of the show, so for him to move onto Philly so quickly really wouldn't fit the theme that's been there for so long
 

Grimmlokk

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Well, it sort of fits. They spent the first 4-5 seasons with him seeing himself as an outsider there. Someone who clearly never thought he'd be there still. They got away from that some when he realized he might be there a long time and he should actually start trying a few seasons back. But that kernel of him wanting to GTFO was always there. They started fanning that flame a little last season(I think) when Jim saw the guy from high school he used to pick on who was now way more successful than him.

Jim leaving is actually one of the few things on the show they've set up to actually make sense long term. Sort of.
 

chaos

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If we're looking at this realistically, Jim has no reason to give a shit about that job. It was something temporary that, through his inertia and necessity, became permanent. And now he has a chance to build a future and make a fuckload of money AND do something that makes him happy. Why in the world would he want to go back to selling paper at the doomed to eventually fail paper company?

Really, why would he give a fuck? If it were me, I would think everyone at work would be happy for me. If it were someone who worked with me, I would think they were stupid for giving up and coming back. This shit is bananas.
 

ham

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There's no reason for him to want to 'sell paper' that wasn't the point I was making. He anchored the show early on as the guy who was clearly the smartest dude in the room that didn't belong there in a normal sense. Then he meets his wife there, is there for I guess what they're saying is a decade now, and I guess I saw that maybe they were saying that Scranton may have been enough for him afterall because of the people. When he got the chance to leave though it didn't seem like the case and it felt to me they were trying to play that part back into the storyline, but they just made Pam deliver the motivation instead of having him do it on his own. You're being pretty short sighted for the whole thing and of course, you're also forgetting it's a sitcom too I think
 

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jim makes too many jokes about becoming a douche. It's probably going to end with him not liking the person he was becoming.
 

chaos

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There's no reason for him to want to 'sell paper' that wasn't the point I was making. He anchored the show early on as the guy who was clearly the smartest dude in the room that didn't belong there in a normal sense. Then he meets his wife there, is there for I guess what they're saying is a decade now, and I guess I saw that maybe they were saying that Scranton may have been enough for him afterall because of the people. When he got the chance to leave though it didn't seem like the case and it felt to me they were trying to play that part back into the storyline, but they just made Pam deliver the motivation instead of having him do it on his own. You're being pretty short sighted for the whole thing and of course, you're also forgetting it's a sitcom too I think
I don't think so. I mean yeah, it is a sitcom, so there is that. Since when did that stop us from criticizing stupid shit?

But I don't think I'm taking the short view here, if anything I think I am viewing the series as a whole. Jim has always been the odd man out in Scranton, he has always been clearly unhappy at Dunder Mifflin. And the company has been shaky ever since what, season 2 or 3? He has a family now, it makes no sense for him to continue here when he has other options. Especially given how unhappy he is.

And not to mentiont hat he has already given up one huge opportunity for Pam. Now another? The first time it was understandable, this time it is less so.
 

Boobietastles_sl

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I have to echo what you guys are saying. Pam is being a real shitty wife. Jim supported the shit out of her when she went to New York. Now all of a sudden, when its Jims turn she is being a selfish bitch. wtf. What reason is there to hang on to your life in Scranton? Really very weird how they have written Pam through this. Why is she so resistant to a better life?
 

The Ancient_sl

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Jim made the decision to join this unproven company in another city and completely hid it from Pam for awhile. He invested a sizable portion of their savings into the company without so much as consulting her. Pam is comfortable and rooted and Jim is uprooting them, taking big risks and barely making her a part of that process. No, I'm not surprised by her reluctance.

SERIOUS TALK ABOUT THE OFFICE.
 

chaos

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He consulted her about the money. Rather than try to minimize his investment he went with the max they said they could do. Thus drama.
 

chaos

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The way I remember it they discussed that he would negotiate and that 10k was the ceiling, and he just went straight to 10k. Maybe not the most honest thing in the world, but consultation was there.
 

McCheese

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Doesn't matter because the company is turning out to be incredibly successful. Only a woman would hold onto that "going straight to max investment" shit.
 

Tenks

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Pam is just pissed she's a retarded old hag who has never accomplished anything her entire life and Jim does one venture and is successful. Bitter moustachiod woman is pissed.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Doesn't matter because the company is turning out to be incredibly successful.
Where are you getting that indication from? For all we know it's as successful as Dunder-Mifflin Online.

I think it's intentional that all we see is glimpses and buzzwords and no clear idea what the company does.

I'm sure it will end up being successful because at the show's end, I'm sure we'll get a happy ending for Jim and Pam, but I don't think they've really done much to point that way yet.
 

McCheese

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Where are you getting that indication from? For all we know it's as successful as Dunder-Mifflin Online.

I think it's intentional that all we see is glimpses and buzzwords and no clear idea what the company does.

I'm sure it will end up being successful because at the show's end, I'm sure we'll get a happy ending for Jim and Pam, but I don't think they've really done much to point that way yet.
It's a sports marketing/advertising company. I guess it's technically unclear that they are successful, but that's the impression I've gotten. They're hiring more people (as evidenced by Darrel), the office is pretty swank, they're having meetings with athletes, and Jim isn't stressing about it like he was before.

Then again, it could be The Office: 38 Studios.
 

The Ancient_sl

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It's a classic tale. Before there was 38 studios there was
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That office was swank before Jim got there, and it wasn't too many episodes ago that they couldn't convince a key capital investor aboard and Jim had to plead to David Wallace like an asshole.