The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

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I believe the truth is out there... i believe that aliens exist due to the inconceivable thought that our minor star is the only one that developed life. Among the billions of galaxies(estimates are somewhere between 200 billion and 2 trillion) with ~10 billion stars in each, most of which have planets, only 1 planet has life...inconceivable!!
 
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Like I've said, read if you want and do what you will. I'm not here to prove shit all to anyone. If someone likes this stuff, awesome. If not, that's cool too.


First up tonight:

Here is an example from a news clip released a few days ago of what appears to be a ship entering a portal..or perhaps entering Warp speed..very odd.
A number of video bloggers have already slowed down the frame and taken a look at the raw video.
It clearly shows a shiny visible object flying across the night sky, then "Insert Star Trek Warp Flash Here" and it has disappeared.

Mysterious Light and Boom Startles San Jose Residents




Many people witnessed it besides the videos circulating.

What could it have been that we know of?
Some weather trickery? Maybe. We learn new things all the time, but it certainly would be a first from the looks of it.
Firecracker? Firecrackers don't boom like that.
Ball lightning? Not consistent with the phenomenon.
Some military test? Maybe. There are a lot of unannounced missile tests in that area and who knows what else. I feel we would have seen a fireball if it was a missile test. Also a plume from the exhaust.
Any other suggestions?
Trick of light?

The video sucks but isn't that what a meteor looks like?

we had one in Michigan a few weeks ago, shook my dad's house

 

A5150Ylee

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The video sucks but isn't that what a meteor looks like?

we had one in Michigan a few weeks ago, shook my dad's house



It does look like meteor, but there was only a 5 second delay between the flash and boom on that video. That would put it roughly 1 mile away from the camera. Don't most meteors that go pop do it at a much higher altitude than just 5,000 feet? Didn't Columbia break up at about 200,000 feet?
 

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I feel the same. Although I think there are most certainly alien civilizations "out there", it's highly improbable that they have visited Earth or are even aware of our existence -- the universe is enormous and distances too vast even if they have achieved, somehow, superluminal velocities.

Ghost, demons, et.al are even more improbable as they violate the laws of physics. Yeah, sure, someone might say it's due to our lack of understanding blah blah, but the fact is there are no repeatable tests that we can perform to prove such things. So, yeah, pure fantasy as far as I'm concerned.

BUT, all of that stuff is sure fun as hell to read and speculate about.

You do realize that the existence of the universe itself violates the laws of physics right? Also, is the universe really as vast as were told or is it actually rather small and localized and Earth is actually at the center? You know, as real science is telling us.
 
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Chukzombi

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right now ive been deep into ancient high technology theories, that DO NOT include aliens. i'm trying to be reasonable.

look at this crazy shit.
 
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You do realize that the existence of the universe itself violates the laws of physics right? Also, is the universe really as vast as were told or is it actually rather small and localized and Earth is actually at the center? You know, as real science is telling us.
What you said is fine, but you're going to have to play nice in this thread if you want to stay here.
 
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You do realize that the existence of the universe itself violates the laws of physics right? Also, is the universe really as vast as were told or is it actually rather small and localized and Earth is actually at the center? You know, as real science is telling us.
Neat. Which experiment demonstrated that earth is at the center of the universe? Since youve assured us that experiments are the only thing that counts as science, I'm sure you have a quick experiment that demonstrates what youre asserting.
 

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Good Channel called Top5s. Lots of different stuff but some of it related to this:


 

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I do not believe there are, or ever have been, aliens here on Earth. Nor do I believe in ghosts or spirits or squatches or haunted houses or anything of that nature. I DO believe that the government keeps tons of things from public knowledge, but I DO NOT believe those things are in any way related to aliens or supernatural forces. However, far too many people I work with do believe in some or all of those things.

I dunno.

I thought hard about this kinda stuff, and really, I don't know if this is understanding the world more or just my old age of almost 42, but have any of you really sat in a quiet room and picture something for a moment: We are all existing on a ball of rock that is (for the lack of a better word) floating in space. Whatever "space" is, that is so wide open and full of so much empty space that in the next few million years when Andromeda and Milky Way galaxy collide with one another, it's extremely likely that nothing will actually hit each other and simply pass through each other. The intense vastness, that our sun is one of... trillions and trillions of stars. And all of this is floating in something that goes on for eternity. Oh sure, our observable universe is 15 billion light years, but what does this even mean? If you are located at the point 15 billion light years away from us *right now* can you see 15 billion light years further than we can observe? How does this work? Is space truly infinite? And if so, how did this come to be?

I think as humans we take these things that we simply cannot wrap our head around and attempt to give explanations around it (re: God). Think about it for a bit, seriously. Just take space as an example -- how could that not be a supernatural force? Not saying aliens, but I'm saying the creator of space, or even the events of how it came to be (big bang or otherwise). What decided space to be here. What was occupying the spot you're at 500 trillion years ago? Was there anything? Did it exist? Where did it come from? Oh yes, space "expands" but in order for it to expand, there has to be area for it to expand into.

So I think people explain things off to Gods, Aliens, or general super natural forces because of the inability to comprehend facts around you. If your eyes play a legit trick on you and you saw something supernatural with your own eyes, you'll likely never be able to convince another -- but you observed it. You saw it. It's real to you.
 
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Neat. Which experiment demonstrated that earth is at the center of the universe? Since youve assured us that experiments are the only thing that counts as science, I'm sure you have a quick experiment that demonstrates what youre asserting.

But when you look at [the cosmic microwave background] map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That’s crazy. We’re looking out at the whole universe. There’s no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun — the plane of the earth around the sun — the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe.” - Lawrence Krauss

The cosmic microwave background noise points to Earth being in a specialized place, which is the center of everything.
 

Aldarion

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Thats an interpretation of observations, not an experiment. You specifically said real science requires experiments.
 

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But when you look at [the cosmic microwave background] map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That’s crazy. We’re looking out at the whole universe. There’s no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun — the plane of the earth around the sun — the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe.” - Lawrence Krauss

The cosmic microwave background noise points to Earth being in a specialized place, which is the center of everything.

Hmmmm. No, it doesn't.
 

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I needed some separation from the other threads.
The conversation of strange phenomenon desperately needs to head in another direction.
The only way to spur a release of the hidden content they have, is to petition the Government.
Raise our voices loud and ask for more disclosure so that we may have the Possible threat in our skies openly spoken of and allow the organized discussion, research and science that need to be done.
The only way that will happen is with the spreading of information.
No longer hidden in the realms of "Conspiracy Theory", the sightings of Strange Unexplained Phenomenon in this world are now spoken of openly, even by Government officials.


There is a lot happening around the globe these days.
Since these are all unexplained thus far, I'd love to hear some constructive conversation in here.
I will be posting a number of weird and wild observable Phenomenon that Science, in most cases, doesn't have any answers for.
Or as yet have been disclosed to the public.

Here is a short list of topics I will be covering in the next few weeks.
Missing Ocean Water Worldwide
Mysterious Loud Booms heard all over the world
Strange pulsing lights in the sky
Skinwalker Ranch





UFO's, or Advanced Aerial Threats are the topic in this First post.

Not Aliens.

First post I'll dedicate to a few of our Pilots in the air.
They have been encountering Untrackable, Unidentifiable flying vehicles for years.

Learjet And Airbus Had Strange Encounter With Mysterious Craft Over Arizona

The initial report came from N71PG, the Learjet, asking Albuquerque Center if traffic had passed above them. The controller replied "negative," meaning that there was no traffic to his knowledge that would account for such an observation. The Learjet pilot replies defiantly, "somethin' did." Another pilot chimed in on the frequency saying "a UFO" and the Learjet pilot replied "yeah."


A few minutes later, the controller asks American 1095 to let him know if they see anything "pass over you here in the next 15 miles." The American Airlines pilot replies in a puzzled manner "if anything passes over us!?" The controller responds "affirmative, we had an aircraft in front of you at 37 [thousand feet] that reported something pass over him and we didn't have any [radar] targets, so just let me know if you see anything pass over you."



Until the recent disclosure by the Pentagon, many of these encounters were scrubbed from the books.
Not taken seriously by those at ground, laughed at and ridiculed by anyone they would take their story to.


Now, we are finally being given undisclosed encounters, with recordings.

And some clever aviation hobbyists and airmen have been quick to disclose said encounters.



The media format is a little weird on this next video, but I can appreciate the content just the same.

Boeing 747 Followed by a UFO | An Out Of This World Encounter | Japan Air Lines Flight 1628

The crew of a Japan Air Lines Boeing 747 first witnessed two unidentified objects to their left.
These abruptly rose from below and closed in to escort their aircraft.

And here is the associated MUFON file.

Japanese Airlines Flight 1628 - 1986
The water thing freaks me out. Roman ruins way above sea level now used to be so deep in the sea that ships could sail to the front door. Then on the same note cities buried beneath the sea. Fear of glacier melt, yet those places at various times were barren of ice but in the same note, ice used to cover much of the US. Deep thick ice.
Weather is a bitch.
As for missing water, salt causes dehydration and we all know how salty humans can be and that retains water. We have buried over a billion people while they were still "wet". Clearly if we had dumped them into the sea and lakes, water wouldn't be missing!

I can solve all the worlds questions. I just need a shot of Jack and a handful of poppy.
 
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just curious, if i had unlimited funds and contracted you to use the best modern technology, how much would it cost to reproduce this room?
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Oldbased

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just curious, if i had unlimited funds and contracted you to use the best modern technology, how much would it cost to reproduce this room?
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That is my area as well. Real or replicated to look real? Structure already existing or from dirt up? How big is the room we can't see?
 

Chukzombi

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That is my area as well. Real or replicated to look real? Structure already existing or from dirt up? How big is the room we can't see?
its solid rose granite. i want it done legit, that means carving out that room. i have no idea the dimensions. the ceiling looks about 20+ feet high and the room looks like its about 50 feet wide.
 

Oldbased

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its solid rose granite. i want it done legit, that means carving out that room. i have no idea the dimensions. the ceiling looks about 20+ feet high and the room looks like its about 50 feet wide.
Finding that color and mixture of rock is the hard part here. Granite is easily mined these days which is how they can get it shipped all over the world, sliced into perfect 1 1/8 to 1 5/8 and pay a guy to wet cut, bevel and polish and seal and haul that heavy shit into your house and plop it on particle board cabinets from Lowe's for $30-60 a sq ft. That covers everything from exploration, to mining it to transporting it all over the world, the high markup on granite shops, the labor to cut, trim, polish, seal and haul it to your house and install it.
Considering that the value of a rose granite is decent, the cost to cut out such a room given the granite the space once filled has a decent value of money, the cost of the room itself would be quite reasonable.

A good example was on dirty jobs years back. Quite precise, quite dangerous.
 
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Chukzombi

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Finding that color and mixture of rock is the hard part here. Granite is easily mined these days which is how they can get it shipped all over the world, sliced into perfect 1 1/8 to 1 5/8 and pay a guy to wet cut, bevel and polish and seal and haul that heavy shit into your house and plop it on particle board cabinets from Lowe's for $30-60 a sq ft. That covers everything from exploration, to mining it to transporting it all over the world, the high markup on granite shops, the labor to cut, trim, polish, seal and haul it to your house and install it.
Considering that the value of a rose granite is decent, the cost to cut out such a room given the granite the space once filled has a decent value of money, the cost of the room itself would be quite reasonable.
sorry, man. im asking how much would it cost to carve that room out of a solid cliff like it was done at Petra?