I am not familiar with the topic. I tend to be pretty skeptical of most conspiracy theories. I've come to the conclusion that Lazar is full of shit and QAnon is meaningless babble. Something is going on with these craft but I'm thinking they are not "off world" in origin.
Only was able to get half my thoughts out. Long day.
No one said anything about the Qanon group, conspiracies or Lazar, so please chill the fuck out.
Just saying that your summation of it being our secret shit is quite on par with most of what is being spoken about out in the human consciousness engine.
Breakaway Civs have been spoken/written/reported about since the mid 1600's. I have a list of books if you do find an interest in this.
If you think about it, compared to some 3rd world countries America itself is a breakaway civilization. Large swaths of Africa and South America are just getting the internet for the first time ever (thanks skylink). To them we are so advanced it boggles thier wee minds.
The specific BC iteration I'm referencing is the one that has been spoken about by many for decades. There is the Public world. Then there's the Black Budget world.
Both operating in parallel, but only one operating specifically with a technocraticish focal point with moving thier science and technology forward being the only driving force.
Maybe this is a better description of the concept.
How far and how fast could our society push science and technology if we had zero restrictions, an infinite budget, access to the greatest minds on the planet and nothing distracting us from pushing ourselves forward? (example: no energy issues, no government restrictions, no oversight, no common man issues)
As much as void (INSERT WITTY JOKE INDICATOR HERE) needs it to be aliens, or chuck (INSERT WITTY JOKE INDICATOR HERE) needs it to be interdimensional cake eaters, the supporting facts seem to keep pointing towards the black budget SAPS of our mighty US MIC.
Sleep time. Chow.