The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

Blantons4Ever said:

i figure this is best place to ask . one thing i never understand is how to "ancient" cities end up underground and need to be excavated? any city - from ancient cities and even oregon. how does a city get built on top of old one? i cant imagine scenario where my city is covered by sand/dirt and new city gets put on top. how does this happen? obv not an archeologist

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If you watch some of these "quacks" that they are called, they dont always come up short. Some of their evidence seems very likely. In that, a lot of the dating that is done - unless its an animal of some type, or human - theyre just dating something that would be placed in that area. For example, if they found an ancient city and they wanted to date it, they would date the wood, or a vase or something similar that would have a chemical marker of some type that would indicate its age. But in 100% stone structures, they cant with 100% certainty, date them.

For example, a roaming tribe comes across a stone temple and they just decide to live there and worship in it. Is it really unlikely to believe that scenario? Not really. So a scientist today, would pick up some debri from that tribe that could be dated, but that has fuck all to do with the age of the stone temple that they inhabited. It could be theirs, or it could have been built way earlier. There is no direct way to tell, just "assume."

So long story short, if you have "Stone Henge" and "Easter Island Statues" etc. that are relatively impossible to date - could they be older than whats being assumed? If so, how many "Great Resets" have they been a part of? How many glacial melts and global warmings have happened? How many major asteroids have hit? How many Yellow Stones have erupted? - Once you start to question the dating method the institutions have, the world becomes a lot more explainable.

Chukzombi said:

if the small, simple reptiles today came from more advanced and larger reptiles millions of years ago, its not crazy to assume humans did the same thing. cataclysms keep hitting the reset button on evolution. not sure why scientists arent even open to that line of thinking for humans. everything has to be put into these neat little boxes til things like this workshop pop up.

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I think its the only plausible explanation. We have remains that are widely contested that may be older, but for sure have a 233k year old human remains. Yet most everything is dated back within the last 10-15k years. Thats why the Younger Dryas event should have so much more weight. We obviously existed before everything that is able to be dated, but the proof that the human race had any actual knowledge about farming, masonry etc. is quickly thrown.

I believe the human race has risen and fallen many times. Each time, our numbers have been obliterated to near extinction levels. Those of us smart enough, and adaptable enough have made it through these periods and thats what our gene pool is based on. They have no idea what exactly made Neanderthals go extinct, but I would be willing to be that if we had a viewing glass of all the events that have happened in history - they were wiped out by a catastrophe that they just werent equipped to deal with. Meanwhile, you had modern day humans with the ingenuity and know how to withstand that event.

Wingz said:

Kinda odd presentation but interesting.

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Void said:

In all seriousness, where does all this pole reversal stuff come from? Not specifically targeting just you, but since you brought it up I'm asking everyone. The last reversal was hundreds of thousands of years ago, happened gradually, and literally nothing out of the ordinary is known to have happened. Why is this a common doomsday scenario? There is zero evidence of a "quick flip" ever having happened or being likely to happen, nor is there any evidence that it would do jack or shit besides fuck up all of our directional references.

If someone has some REAL evidence contradicting that (and no, I'm not going to watch some 97 minute video by some quack, so try for something a little more concrete), feel free to elaborate, but this bottles my mind every time it is brought up. Where did all of this even come from? It is, as far as I can tell, completely made up.

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I just dont get how someone that dates something that happened back 700k+ years ago can have more than a 0.01% chance of knowing what the fuck really happened. Sure, you can pull out an educated guess - but its just that.. a guess. Maybe theyre right? But until we experience one ourselves, (which we're due, supposedly) - how can anyone dismiss it as something that has almost no effect on the earth? All you literally have to do is question the method in which they found out that its inconsequential - and then you can decide whether thats enough evidence for you to believe that this person was correct or wasnt.

We also don't dig deep enough to find very old things. Coal miners have found some very VERY old artifacts embedded in solid rock dating to 100+ million years ago. The reset cycle may go all the way back to the dinosaurs, and if not, it makes a good videogame story!

Kharzette said:

We also don't dig deep enough to find very old things. Coal miners have found some very VERY old artifacts embedded in solid rock dating to 100+ million years ago. The reset cycle may go all the way back to the dinosaurs, and if not, it makes a good videogame story!

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If you watch a documentary on some of the mining going on in Permafrost locations, theyre thousands of feet deep and bones and tusks, etc. are just hanging out into the cave. Shits wild.. and kind of freaky to know that some of these bones are from species that only lived 15-20k years ago. What could have possibly happened to move that much sediment in that short (relative to what mainstream scientist promote) of time?

Void said:

Not going to tag everyone involved because that's just annoying, but here's what I've gathered from watching those videos, and others, and doing my own slightly-more-than-minimal digging.

My initial reaction was triggered by Rajaah saying that a rapid pole reversal happened 6000 years ago, and that stuff like cataclysmic floods were definitely possible/expected when they happen. I have seen no conclusive evidence that one happened then, nor have I seen anything to indicate that massive disasters would be common if one does ever happen. The vast majority of the discussions claim that most pole reversals happen over a fairly long period of time, and nothing "bad" really happens.

Now, the Adams Transitional Geomagnetic Event discussed in that video from Australia purports that one happened around 42,000 years ago (hence the Adams name), and that it happened over a fairly short time period (still probably hundreds if not thousands of years leading up to it that would have been detectable by our current level of technology). A lot of evidence points to it indeed happening, and that a lot of megafauna died off during that time, but it wasn't due to apocalyptic conditions. Instead it was most likely due to significantly higher levels of solar radiation getting through (due to the weakening of the magnetosphere), causing cancers and fatal mutations. While something like that would definitely have a huge impact on modern society and the environment, there is no reason to believe that we couldn't survive it. I know that saying something like "use more sunscreen" is reductive, and crops and animals would have to be protected somehow, but it isn't anything we couldn't overcome given a little ingenuity. It isn't a big "game over" button like so many seem to claim.

All of this essentially falls in line with what I was saying in the first place. Why does everyone talk about pole reversal as something that a) happens all the time, b) happens near instantaneously such that it would take us by surprise, and c) when it happens causes massive destruction? That's the kind of evidence I'm asking for, because NONE of the actual evidence I've seen indicates that I should be clenching my asscheeks in fear of the imminent pole reversal apocalypse. If you've got something more credible than some crackpot on YouTube showing why I should worry, please share.

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I wouldnt clench my ass cheeks over anything, tbh. It's not like you could prepare for Tidal Waves that are so tall they would race across the entirety of the continental US - much less, the world. There is evidence leaning towards a slow shift in magnetic poles because thats what is currently happening. That indisputable.

But that isnt a reason to throw out the hypothesis that the magnetic pole couldnt drastically alter its location, or outright flip in an abrupt and violent way. There is so much about this subject that is based on an "educated guess" that believing in one person over another is just as pointless as worrying about the end of the world. What is comparable on a miniscule scale does not necessarily mean that scaled up, it will act the same. Scientist believe theyre measuring molten lava rivers 3000km deep with Satellites detecting/measuring magnetic fields. Again, these are educated guesses - most of which have no reason to be questioned, but they should always be open to scrutiny. Historians, Archaeologists, Scientists in general - would rather commit seppuku than admit that they were wrong about the technological advance of humans in the face of Göbekli Tepe (for example).