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Honestly, anyone who has not played The Last Remnant can still get it on Steam. No achievements on it (why?!) but the game on the PC is considerably better in every aspect than the 360, and the game itself is truly fantastic. It really was underrated because the 360 version was total shit and that's what got all the press, but on the PC the game is absolutely stunning, and has one of the most memorable soundtracks of any JRPG out there. Well worth the full price IMO.

 
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So I picked up Last Remnant for PC through Steam. One question. In my settings there is an event skip button but it doesn't seem to work on the before major battle cut scenes which is really annoying. When I fail a fight and go back I have to go through the whole goddamn cut scene again, is there any way to change that?
 
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DoctorSpooge_sl said:
I'm not gonna check it against your bulleted list of preferences, butg try Dark Souls. It yanked me forcefully and permanently from MMO addiction. Before Dark Souls and after EQ, I couldn't play anything that wasn't an mmo.

Don't let its reputed difficulty dissuade you - I'm not a fan of hard games, but the type of difficulty in Dark Souls makes for an utterly addictive experience. Its non-linearity - compared at least with non-western RPG's - often results in the familiar-to-mmo-players experience of venturing into to an area where you're clearly not supposed to be, but augments it with the possibility of either a) coming back later and more powerful or b) beating the fuck out of through pure skill.

The level of character customization exceeds that of any other game I've played, and any sensible build - and by sensible I mean one that has some thought channeled into it, no google minmaxing required - is viable. Grinding is fun as fuck, too, if you wanna do it, because all enemies have drop tables that include common and rare items in addition to the xp (souls) they drop.

Compound all that with the presence of imo the most haunting atmosphere in all of gaming and you get maybe the best game ever made. If graphics are an issue, start with Bloodborne, then try the PS4 edition of Dark Souls II, then go to Dark Souls. Demon's Souls is probably borderline unplayable to new players now, on account of terrible framerate and graphics, but it's also amazing.
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Thank you very much for the suggestion. I followed the Bloodborne thread on here when it was released but just never got it. Signed up for Gamefly and should have dark souls 2 on ps4 either tomorrow or Saturday. Perfect!

I really liked how you said it pulled you away from mmos, and thats what I need. Even now, try as I might, seeing the information coming out of blizzcon kind of makes me want to check out wow again. Ugh.

Lucky for me, my Gamefly queue got pretty long pretty quick and should have a great time.
 
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Np man. Hope you fall in love with it like a lot of members of this forum. And, I entreat you, give it half a dozen hours becore you give it up in disgust.

The Souls gamezs have some of the most robust and authoritative gaming wikis out there, so consult them religiously if needed for item drops, walkthroughs, factions (called covenants) or whatever. Resources abound also for build and gear advice, so hit em up (or hit up a Souls theead here) for advice on what stats to pump or gear to farm if you want guidance. You can make pretty much anything work, but a lot of builds are pretty tough to pull off for new players.
 
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Khane_sl said:
So I picked up Last Remnant for PC through Steam. One question. In my settings there is an event skip button but it doesn't seem to work on the before major battle cut scenes which is really annoying. When I fail a fight and go back I have to go through the whole goddamn cut scene again, is there any way to change that?
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Unsure i havent touched the PC version in aagggeessss
 
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Khane_sl said:
So I picked up Last Remnant for PC through Steam. One question. In my settings there is an event skip button but it doesn't seem to work on the before major battle cut scenes which is really annoying. When I fail a fight and go back I have to go through the whole goddamn cut scene again, is there any way to change that?
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I don't recall any issue with it, maybe remap it to a different key and try it.
 
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Yes crone, yesssss. One of us. One of us.

The souls series and bloodborne are probably my favorite contemporary series out there. Yes it is hard. Yes you will break controllers. The world is hauntingly beautiful and scary at the same time. There is no greater feeling than beating a boss in those games.
 
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Khane_sl said:
So I picked up Last Remnant for PC through Steam. One question. In my settings there is an event skip button but it doesn't seem to work on the before major battle cut scenes which is really annoying. When I fail a fight and go back I have to go through the whole goddamn cut scene again, is there any way to change that?
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Google is mostly saying you have to Pause first, then Event Skip. In this case Pause actually being the one next to Scroll Lock (or wherever it is on your KB). But that is configurable in options I think.
 
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Intrinsic_sl said:
Google is mostly saying you have to Pause first, then Event Skip. In this case Pause actually being the one next to Scroll Lock (or wherever it is on your KB). But that is configurable in options I think.
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Thanks, I had pause turned off, guess that was the problem. Loving this game so far though
 
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Noodlemod_sl said:
Yes crone, yesssss. One of us. One of us.

The souls series and bloodborne are probably my favorite contemporary series out there. Yes it is hard. Yes you will break controllers. The world is hauntingly beautiful and scary at the same time. There is no greater feeling than beating a boss in those games.
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Sounds right up my alley. Did the remake do anything about changes to save points, or is that just as brutal? I had heard that if you die, you have to start pretty far back, and redo a lot of stuff? But to be honest, that doesn't sound to far off from an MMO raiding environment, lol. Maybe that's why it pulled you away from EQ Doctor? lol. Redoing an encounter over and over again, until you beat it? Check. Frustrating as fuck. Check! haha
 
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Crone_sl said:
Sounds right up my alley. Did the remake do anything about changes to save points, or is that just as brutal? I had heard that if you die, you have to start pretty far back, and redo a lot of stuff? But to be honest, that doesn't sound to far off from an MMO raiding environment, lol. Maybe that's why it pulled you away from EQ Doctor? lol. Redoing an encounter over and over again, until you beat it? Check. Frustrating as fuck. Check! haha
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The games honestly go out of their way to minimizs frustrations that accompany dying in most games. You keep all your gear, you keep all your xp (as long as you reach ypur corpse without dying again), bonfires (respawn points) are well-placed and shortcuts open up.

That last point brings me to DkS 2's only real weakness. You're not gonna find the Souls series's much-vaunted level design to the extent that you will in Dks 1 of Bborn. It's still top-tier, but DkS 1's levels - the way you can see your bloodstain from ramparts hundreds of feet above, the way the levels fold into themselves, the way shortcuts reveal how interconnected the world is - thats absent in Ds2.

From a gameplay perspective, though, ds2 is better.

Reaching Anor Londo in the first game for the first time is probably the mot breathtaking gaming experience of my life.
 
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Khane_sl said:
Thanks, I had pause turned off, guess that was the problem. Loving this game so far though
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Yep, you will. It's fantastic, and the PC version at least has a lot of post-game content too I believe. Or, maybe it was pre-final-boss-everything-is-unlocked-have-fun content.
 
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AladainAF_sl said:
Yep, you will. It's fantastic, and the PC version at least has a lot of post-game content too I believe. Or, maybe it was pre-final-boss-everything-is-unlocked-have-fun content.
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New Game Plus? That's PC Only. There's a lot of shit to digest in this game. Formations, Classes, Items, etc etc etc. And it's all based on how you use your skills in battle that determines most of that shit. Lots to digest.

Only thing I'm not liking so far is being able to hit a trigger too soon. F that.
 
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Why not just buy both consoles so you have access to everything big K?

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On yeah TLR on PC is great. They fixed everything that made it suck on XBox. It does get a bit challenging and tedious though. I've never beat it but I have two 30 hr playthroughs.
 
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DoctorSpooge_sl said:
The games honestly go out of their way to minimizs frustrations that accompany dying in most games. You keep all your gear, you keep all your xp (as long as you reach ypur corpse without dying again), bonfires (respawn points) are well-placed and shortcuts open up.

That last point brings me to DkS 2's only real weakness. You're not gonna find the Souls series's much-vaunted level design to the extent that you will in Dks 1 of Bborn. It's still top-tier, but DkS 1's levels - the way you can see your bloodstain from ramparts hundreds of feet above, the way the levels fold into themselves, the way shortcuts reveal how interconnected the world is - thats absent in Ds2.

From a gameplay perspective, though, ds2 is better.

Reaching Anor Londo in the first game for the first time is probably the mot breathtaking gaming experience of my life.
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Agreed except one point t. Doctor really glosses over how often you will die and lose all your exp hahaha
 
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I agree with all being said about the level design. Altho I really enjoyed Iron Keep, and the Ivory King DLC in DS2.

But the bossses in DS1 were much more fun to fight. And Anor Londo was some great level design
 
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Noodlemod_sl said:
Agreed except one point t. Doctor really glosses over how often you will die and lose all your exp hahaha
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Yeah, he'll die all the time but part of the genius of the game is that an individual death doesn't set you as far back as it does in most games, provided you make it to your corpse before dying again. And provided you aren't poisoned by those dickhead basilisks in DS1.

Also not counting being at 75% all the time since you get used to that
 
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Dragon Quest VII and VIII have been confirmed to come to 3DS in NA and EU in 2016.

Dragon Quest VII I'm mildly excited for, but Dragon Quest VIII I am EXTREMELY excited for. It is supposedly the best Dragon Quest game of all time, and though it's available on Android right now, I would much rather play it on the 3DS.

Also Bravely Second next year. 2016 is gonna be great for JRPG fans with a 3DS.
 
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Why not just buy both consoles so you have access to everything big K?

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On yeah TLR on PC is great. They fixed everything that made it suck on XBox. It does get a bit challenging and tedious though. I've never beat it but I have two 30 hr playthroughs.
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Game gets ridiculously hard near the end iirc - Some of those last encounters and battles were long as fuck to end up dying on.
 
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The Last Remnant has a few "gimmick" fights where you only send in one unit at first to trigger their ae rape spell, with everyone else either using Long Ranged Attacks or standby until it is over. Then you can safely move in and the majority of the threat presented by the encounter is gone, because you aren't starting the fight with every unit cursed/poisoned and at half health. Every time you come across a giant bird or dragon looking thing, do the sacrificial unit deal and it will improve your odds of winning tremendously.
 
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