The Social Engineering Thread
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Mist
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Really bad understanding of genetics here.
You can make artificial sperm from eggs with current technology. Making artificial eggs from sperm would be quite a bit harder and probably produce a heck of a lot of derps.
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Kiroy
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Mist
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I knew the eventual direction of the thread would end up here anyway.
The ultimate question is which would be the happier society, a world of men without women or a world of women without men?
I mean, I once thought I knew the answer to this, but considering the amount of women who's sole motivation in life is the attention they receive from men, I really don't know anymore.
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kegkilla
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Mist
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This is an overstatement of my case and a strawman.
I'm saying that, for instance, if you could raise the population's overall happiness and satisfaction in life, by temporarily shifting the gender ratio to suit the available demand for that needs doing, would it be an ethical thing to do?
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yerm
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I disagree with 1 and so forgot it. You are correct on that.
That said all of my points stand. In a frontier society with plenty of productive work to keep men busy, and few women, it sucks. Does not matter that the workload is overwhelmingly suitable for men, the imbalance itself creates social issues. In a reverse setting as you suggest where the work is overwhelmingly non-male and society is bred to match, it will still suck.
The underlying problem is that there is more to life than work. Creating a perfect work setup where everyone has job satisfaction does not create social satisfaction. I left my dream job as a zip line operator to now shitpost from a desk because I wanted more in life than living going to work. In your society where many women have fulfilling jobs but poor companionship/family prospects, that will not equal a fulfulling life in general.
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Kiroy
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S'ok, the fact that this was seriously brought up by you originally, an armchair feminist, just shows how fucking dangerous the militant third wave feminist psychopaths really are. Just imagine the things that go on in their heads.
You may have even red pilled Lend. Maybe half a red pill.
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kegkilla
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Seriously, mist, sexbots and baby making machines, but mostly sexbots, change the entire equation. There is literally nothing we need other than that. Society was built around the exploitation of that fact. Men dont need to be productive at all if you take away that prize of woman and family. And lol at being unhappy being unproductive. I think I would do just fine with living wage and smoking weed watching VR and maybe dabbling in a little "art".
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Kiroy
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And you still haven't answer the question yet Himmler. Would you also apply this to race?
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ZyyzYzzy
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Umm you are retarded. Anucleating an egg and inserting somatic DNA is the most rudimentary way to clone.
Creating artificial eggs is doable. Just right proteins at the correct concentrations
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Tuco
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I feel like artificial wombs will come around the same time as gene therapy and will possibly be totally eclipsed by it.
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iannis
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Well, if those are your two options the women would be happier. Both would be miserable societies by our standards though.
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Kiroy
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Mist
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Which is why I'm not talking about the elimination of any gender. I'm talking about tweaking the ratio to suit the demand for certain types of work.
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yerm
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I too want to hear your answer to this question Mist. I am waiting in anticipation here.
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