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The Woman King (2022)
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Huh? I'm not sure what you think you're clarifying.
I read your post which included a couple of lines from the article. That was the snippet I'm referring to. I didn't actually read the full article until after Angerz's post.
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yes, they will freeze reviews at certain scores i assume if the check arrives to do so.
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Smile already making money while TWK is still a flop.
www.upi.com
Oct. 2 (UPI) -- Smile, a horror movie starring Sosie Bacon and Jessie T. Usher, is the No. 1 movie in North America, earning $22 million in receipts this weekend.
Coming in at No. 2 is Don't Worry Darling with $7.3 million, followed by The Woman King at No. 3 with 7 million, Bros at No. 4 with $4.8 million and Avatar at No. 5 with $4.7 million.
'Smile' tops North American box office with $22M - UPI.com
"Smile," a horror movie starring Sosie Bacon and Jessie T. Usher, is the No. 1 movie in North America, earning $22 million in receipts this weekend.
www.upi.com
Coming in at No. 2 is Don't Worry Darling with $7.3 million, followed by The Woman King at No. 3 with 7 million, Bros at No. 4 with $4.8 million and Avatar at No. 5 with $4.7 million.
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Smile already making money while TWK is still a flop.
Oct. 2 (UPI) -- Smile, a horror movie starring Sosie Bacon and Jessie T. Usher, is the No. 1 movie in North America, earning $22 million in receipts this weekend.'Smile' tops North American box office with $22M - UPI.com
"Smile," a horror movie starring Sosie Bacon and Jessie T. Usher, is the No. 1 movie in North America, earning $22 million in receipts this weekend.
Coming in at No. 2 is Don't Worry Darling with $7.3 million, followed by The Woman King at No. 3 with 7 million, Bros at No. 4 with $4.8 million and Avatar at No. 5 with $4.7 million.
When I went and saw Smile this weekend, I actually had the thought again about this thread cause my 10pm showing was pretty full.
That article we discussed before mentioned how there is a lack of mid budget movies these days, which is true, but this summer actually gave us quite a few, all of which I enjoyed and did pretty well box office wise.
Bullet Train
Black Phone
Smile (currently)
Nope
Barbarian
X/Pearl
even Don't Worry Darling which got eviscerated by critics is tracking to at least break even.
(Bodies Bodies Bodies too, it didnt make much money, but was also a limited release that had a very good per theater average).
Horror is the thing keeping the lights on in theaters in the mid budget range.
However, Woman King doing 7 million on week 3 is actually a really good sign for the movie, that means it only dropped like a third from week 2 to 3, that means it will probably hit 50+ million after this week, and probably 60/70 by the end of the month. Unless the studio had really unhinged expectations for this movie, I cant imagine this will go down as a flop in their eyes; I'd be shocked if it did not hit 100 million easily after digital release.
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they need 125 million to break even. 50 million dollar budget. they were expecting Black Panther numbers. this movie will be booted out of theaters in a week or two.
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DickTrickle
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You're a real retard sometimes. First, you have no idea of the marketing cost. You're just using a general estimate for all movies (that itself is weighted towards big international films). Since this won't get much play overseas, I guarantee the marketing budget was not as much as the film making budget.
Secondly, no one in the entire world thought this would make Black Panther numbers. 200/700/1.3b... sure. You are so fuckin dumb about box office shit.
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MSN
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The Woman King is an action movie with a fire in its belly
Viola Davis leads the complex, deeply human action movie, set in West Africa and based on real history
www.polygon.com
How 'The Woman King' makes Hollywood history with an incredible true story
'The Woman King,' directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood and starring Viola Davis, builds a dramatic epic around the real-life women who inspired 'Black Panther's Dora Milaje.
www.latimes.com
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One of the most pronounced effects of Marvel’s “Black Panther” was that it allowed a race of people who’ve long been underserved by Hollywood to envision an alternative history not rooted in victimhood.
In Wakanda, Black audiences were able to imagine an African nation that had triumphed over colonialism. And through the Dora Milaje — the elite team of female warriors who defended the fictional kingdom — moviegoers met an army of powerful women holding their own against men.
In fact, the Dora Milaje were modeled after the Agojie warrior women (also known as the Dahomey Amazons), who defended the western African kingdom of Dahomey (modern-day Benin) in the 1800s and were the dominant military force in the society. Now, the Agojie are the subject of a new film, “The Woman King,” directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood from a story by actor Maria Bello and screenwriter Dana Stevens.
The women of 'The Woman King' share their war stories: 'This must happen again'
'The Woman King' stars Viola Davis, Lashana Lynch, Thuso Mbedu and Sheila Atim as an elite team of all-female warriors from 19th century western Africa.
www.latimes.com
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DickTrickle
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Once again a fucking moron. Quote the line where they think it can have Black Panther numbers. Can you even read? The second article even says critical acclaim and the Agojie is where the similarities ends.MSN
www.msn.comTheThe Woman King isn’t the simple tale of good and evil it appears to be. The film does pit the Agojie, a fierce all-female army from the historical West African kingdom of Dahomey (and inspiration for Black Panther’s Dora Milaje), against the moral rot of chattel slavery. The Dahomey aren’t pure victims, though. They also participate in the slave trade — not as extensively as the neighboring Oyo Empire, which has been terrorizing Dahomey settlements and selling their people to Portuguese slavers for decades. But the Dahomey do capture enemies and sell them as slaves. Some within the kingdom oppose the practice on moral grounds. Others are simply looking to get rich and don’t care how they do it.The Woman King is an action movie with a fire in its belly
Viola Davis leads the complex, deeply human action movie, set in West Africa and based on real history
How 'The Woman King' makes Hollywood history with an incredible true story
'The Woman King,' directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood and starring Viola Davis, builds a dramatic epic around the real-life women who inspired 'Black Panther's Dora Milaje.
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One of the most pronounced effects of Marvel’s “Black Panther” was that it allowed a race of people who’ve long been underserved by Hollywood to envision an alternative history not rooted in victimhood.
In Wakanda, Black audiences were able to imagine an African nation that had triumphed over colonialism. And through the Dora Milaje — the elite team of female warriors who defended the fictional kingdom — moviegoers met an army of powerful women holding their own against men.
In fact, the Dora Milaje were modeled after the Agojie warrior women (also known as the Dahomey Amazons), who defended the western African kingdom of Dahomey (modern-day Benin) in the 1800s and were the dominant military force in the society. Now, the Agojie are the subject of a new film, “The Woman King,” directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood from a story by actor Maria Bello and screenwriter Dana Stevens.
The Agojie also happen to be the inspiration behind the Dora Milaje of Marvel’s blockbuster “Black Panther.” But that, along with substantial critical acclaim ahead of their releases, is where the similarities between the two films end. “Gina says all the time that if it were not for ‘Black Panther’s’ success, ‘The Woman King’ would not have happened,” said Davis. “But I encourage people to understand that it’s not ‘Black Panther.’ It is its own movie and its own narrative.”The women of 'The Woman King' share their war stories: 'This must happen again'
'The Woman King' stars Viola Davis, Lashana Lynch, Thuso Mbedu and Sheila Atim as an elite team of all-female warriors from 19th century western Africa.
Obviously, a movie about strong black characters in a black society that did well financially inspired a movie about strong black characters in a black society. What a shock. Anything successful opens a door for somewhat similar films, whether original riffs or copycats. That doesn't mean they thought they were going to make an original black centered film a top 10 film of all time in an age dominated by interconnected comic book blockbusters (of which BP was one).
Are you really so stupid you can't understand this?
Go jerk off to your faggot hat collection while reminiscing about something retarded from the 70s that everybody has forgotten.
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little boy, i already proved they tried to correlate the two movies in order to promote this as a Black panther type of film. you can cry like a bitch all day, but it doesnt change that. stop throwing your doodoo like a chimp.
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Having a few similarities movie wise doesn't automatically imply people think it will perform like it. They are just not the same thing you smooth brain dumbass. No one has ever thought this would make BP numbers. Period. You said it did and you can't stand by your words. Stop trying to shift you fucking imbecile. You're too retarded to have conversations with adults.
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Just never talk about anything related to the box office ever again, please. You only embarrass yourself with your lack of cognitive function.
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you cant quit me. i wont stop doing what i do and i am right in this regard.
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not marvel so much as creating the same "event" for black people as BP did, where schools were sent to see the film as class trips and such.
that movie became a thing for some reason, it was just a lame MCU film, but the marketing around it was crazy. they tried that with TWK. trying to recreate that vibe. it just didnt happen.
the budget was 50 million, but i imagine the money they spent on hyping this up as a historic BP film might have been just as much.
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Oh, how the refinements and recalibrations continue, instead of just admitting what you said was wrong.
"they were expecting Black Panther numbers."
Nope.
Hoping to generate word of mouth is not the same as expecting the same numbers. BP spent $200 million on its production budget and almost as much on its marketing.
Here's a sample comparison on US TV ad buys (screenshotted because of registration wall):
www.mediapost.com
www.mediapost.com
Yes, when you're looking to get Black Panther numbers (your words!), you'll spend over six times less than Black Panther did. Because that's definitely what you'd do when you're trying to get 1.35 billion dollars internationally, 700 million in the US, and a 200 million opening weekend -- BP numbers, if you'll recall. All for a historical epic with a very black cast and not part of any franchise or known IP.
Sony's official company line for opening weekend expectations was $12 million. While studios generally put out public estimates on the low side, that's a pretty far estimate from $200 million!
Or, maybe, just maybe, no one in the entire world thought it would get anywhere near BP numbers. Hoping for good word of mouth is not the same as "they were expecting Black Panther numbers."
Just admit you should have never said what you did because you're an old hyperbolic blowhard that puts as much thought into your posts as you do picking and eating your own boogers.
"they were expecting Black Panther numbers."
Nope.
Hoping to generate word of mouth is not the same as expecting the same numbers. BP spent $200 million on its production budget and almost as much on its marketing.
Here's a sample comparison on US TV ad buys (screenshotted because of registration wall):
Sony's 'Woman King' Crowns Mid-Sept. Movie Weekend, $19M Box Office
Sony Pictures was efficient with its TV marketing dollars for "King" with national TV spend of just $6.1 million, according to iSpot.tv -- well under the typical $15 million to $25 million mark for big wide-screen releases.
www.mediapost.com
Disney's 'Black Panther' Spends $37 Million On National TV Ads
The Marvel-produced movie earned a massive $235 million in U.S. box office revenues over the holiday weekend, making "Black Panther" the fifth movie to debut earning more than $200 million for its opening weekend.
www.mediapost.com
Yes, when you're looking to get Black Panther numbers (your words!), you'll spend over six times less than Black Panther did. Because that's definitely what you'd do when you're trying to get 1.35 billion dollars internationally, 700 million in the US, and a 200 million opening weekend -- BP numbers, if you'll recall. All for a historical epic with a very black cast and not part of any franchise or known IP.
Sony's official company line for opening weekend expectations was $12 million. While studios generally put out public estimates on the low side, that's a pretty far estimate from $200 million!
Or, maybe, just maybe, no one in the entire world thought it would get anywhere near BP numbers. Hoping for good word of mouth is not the same as "they were expecting Black Panther numbers."
Just admit you should have never said what you did because you're an old hyperbolic blowhard that puts as much thought into your posts as you do picking and eating your own boogers.