Titan has been cancelled.

Tarrant

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It wouldn't matter as they wouldn't have really infringed upon one anothers turf with one being strictly counsel and the other PC.
 

gogojira_sl

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What makes you assume that? PC focus maybe, but Blizzard is spreading the wealth these days and an MMOFPS would almost certainly hit consoles.
 

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Diablo is "spreading the wealth?" It's one game and isn't anywhere near the scale as an MMO. it's a multi player game, that's all.
 

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This doesn't surprise me, but surprises me in the same breath. The Blizzard we all knew and loved is long, long gone. MMOs are long, long dead. They've killed a genre. Our genre.
 

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Won't be getting my money then. I have never been into card games.
 

gogojira_sl

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Diablo is "spreading the wealth?" It's one game and isn't anywhere near the scale as an MMO. it's a multi player game, that's all.
Fucking Hearthstone has been referenced like 15 times, but yes, Diablo, too. Their last two releases have hit everything, be it PC, console or mobile. I doubt that trend will slow down.
 

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I just wonder how long the F2P micro transaction model will last. When will be get bored of it? Like the MMO $10-15/mo worked because it gave consistent money. But it created a barrier of entry. So the scene switched to F2P with micro transactions. I wonder what the next big way of squeezing money will be,
 

Mist

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I just wonder how long the F2P micro transaction model will last. When will be get bored of it? Like the MMO $10-15/mo worked because it gave consistent money. But it created a barrier of entry. So the scene switched to F2P with micro transactions. I wonder what the next big way of squeezing money will be,
They're going to go back to making you put in quarters every time you die.

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This is sad indeed. Not unexpected, but sad. Almost like a grandparent who finally passes away after a long struggle with cancer. The inevitable is common knowledge, but even armed with the knowledge the loss is still significant.

I think Steve Jobs summed this situation up perfectly in his 1995 interview with Daniel Morrow.

I think what's happened since I left in terms of growth rate has been trivial compared with what it was like when I was there. What ruined Apple wasn't growth. What ruined Apple was values. John Sculley ruined Apple and he ruined it by bringing a set of values to the top of Apple which were corrupt and corrupted some of the top people who were there, drove out some of the ones who were not corruptible, and brought in more corrupt ones and paid themselves collectively tens of millions of dollars and cared more about their own glory and wealth than they did about what built Apple in the first place -- which was making great computers for people to use.

They didn't care about that anymore. They didn't have a clue about how to do it and they didn't take any time to find out because that's not what they cared about. They cared about making a lot of money. So they had this wonderful thing that a lot of brilliant people made called the Macintosh and they got very greedy. And instead of following the original trajectory of the original vision -- which was to make this thing an appliance, to get this out there to as many people as possible -- they went for profits and they made outlandish profits for about four years. Apple was one of the most profitable companies in America for about four years.
The problem is this: No one at Apple has a clue as to how to create the next Macintosh because no one running any part of Apple was there when the Macintosh was made -- or any other product at Apple. They've just been living off that one thing now for over a decade and the last attempt was the Newton and you know what happened to that.
Blizzard grew too large for what it was trying to do. Marketing department, legal department...jesus, its about making games. It is about being artists that create what people in a forum would create if they knew how. Once you let the inmates control the asylum, it is difficult to recover. The mobile market is just where the inmates see the next pile of cash to be made, its not (in its current iteration) an innovative and engaging experience. Its not cool. Its a distraction from the absence of cool that pervades the marketplace right this moment.
 

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Fucking Hearthstone has been referenced like 15 times, but yes, Diablo, too. Their last two releases have hit everything, be it PC, console or mobile. I doubt that trend will slow down.
You seem angry.

And just like Destiny, you wont see many games in the future cross over, only a few have and they've all turned out poorly. It's to large of a risk with what so far has been little return.
 

gogojira_sl

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You seem angry.

And just like Destiny, you wont see many games in the future cross over, only a few have and they've all turned out poorly. It's to large of a risk with what so far has been little return.
I'm not angry, I was just shocked you took issue with what I said when the evidence supports it (sharing doesn't mean giving, Blizzard will remain strongest on PC).

Define what you mean by crossover and which games have turned out poorly. I would assume you mean MMO but Destiny isn't an MMO and for the budget, I'm pretty damn shocked they weren't able to hit it on all platforms.

Specifically MMOs though, you're right. You need deep pockets (which Blizzard has) to support it across multiple platforms and only a few have tried and succeeded. Most companies talk up console versions that never see the light of day, but Square seems to be doing pretty good with it.
 

Tarrant

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Shocked because evidence supports it? I think there is much more evidence to deny than support but you can feel ho you wish on it. I'm okay with you not agreeing with me. -shrug-

Destiny didn't go on all platforms because they stated it's too much to do. They have said that having it on PS4, PS3, XBone and the 360 was hard enough but throwing PC into the mix would have been way to much. Don't you think with their 10 year publishing deal they have going with Activision that perhaps "deep pockets" just might not be all there is to doing what you're thinking?
 

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It really doesnt matter what direction Blizzard is going. They werent destined to make the next big MMO anyways. Much less do I think they were trying to. They were likely going to try something new, sure. But it wasnt ever going to interfere with WoW. Just like Starcraft doesnt interfere with Diablo and Diablo doesnt interfere with HoTS and HoTS doesnt interfere with Hearthstone. Good games and Blizzard fans those customers may have in common, but they are generally a different crowd for each genre.

Graphics have improved by leaps and bounds and computers have slowed down in progression so much that a middle class family can afford a couple computers that can play games on high settings. Point being ~ Who comes up with the next "big thing" is just up in the air now and you guys getting sandy vaginas over the death of a concept MMO is just dumb.
 

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Destiny didn't go on all platforms because they stated it's too much to do. They have said that having it on PS4, PS3, XBone and the 360 was hard enough but throwing PC into the mix would have been way to much. Don't you think with their 10 year publishing deal they have going with Activision that perhaps "deep pockets" just might not be all there is to doing what you're thinking?
LOL, this statement is especially laughable given the state of the game. There's no content, what did they do?
 

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Don't you think with their 10 year publishing deal they have going with Activision that perhaps "deep pockets" just might not be all there is to doing what you're thinking?
Absolutely. I'm sure it's exhausting and it takes a tremendous amount of resources (not strictly financial) to support any additional platforms. I meant to have that in my post but, well, I guess I forgot to add it.
 

Palum

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Absolutely. I'm sure it's exhausting and it takes a tremendous amount of resources (not strictly financial) to support any additional platforms. I meant to have that in my post but, well, I guess I forgot to add it.
I'm sure, but you're talking about massive corporations and ridiculous budgets. It might be excusable if the game was everything it promised but it's a just the crust of a big sloppy DLC pizza or otherwise merely an abject failure for a '10 year project'. I was prepared to throw down $700 on it to buy a PS4 (not exclusively for Destiny, but mostly) but wise enough to learn from past mistakes...