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Chancellor Alkorin

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Disagree. I download all high demand stuff, just for the points/ratio. They've now made 10GB upload credit 120 points (previously 50) and if you're a single user and don't have a seedbox, you're not even going to get a sniff on uploading credit. I've had Sundays Dexter episode since the second it came out and I have uploaded 100MB of it where others are currently rolling at 5GB.
I used to maintain a 10.0+ ratio on RevoTT with over 500GB downloaded, with my shitty cable upload rate of ~90K/s. You don't need a seedbox. You need to download what lots of other people want and let it sit there forever. It's as simple as that.

Of course, now that I do use a seedbox, it's absolutely effortless, sure.
 

BoldW

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I had ninety torrents seeding and that box went down for a week. It was my fourth hnr after it came back up. 3tb upload 1.41 ratio and been a member for at least 3 years. Ya it's retarded. Will get a seedbox tomorrow as it sounds like a good option. I did use the zap method for porn as the wife would use it too so better for her not to see teenage midget assfucking 8 in there.
 

Sterling

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Ratio: 18.42 Uploaded: 13.9 TB Downloaded: 775 GB Active Torrents: 5 0 Bonus Points: 1816.6 HnR Warnings Received: 1
This is with shitty cable intrawebs although it's taken a couple of years to get that way I guess and I don't use it for TV anymore since I use that same tracker Gogs mentioned earlier for that. The big thing is to just seed a bunch of stuff for bonus. Just grab some random freeleech shit or just tiny files if you're worried about space and you'll earn a gazillion bonus points you can use for ratio or for nuking Hit and Runs,
 

Df~_sl

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Again... the issue isnt about ratio or points... its that your computer turning off ends up getting you banned regardless of points or ratio...

My ratio stayed at pretty much 1.5 with just about 600gb uploaded... but since the new HnR system, its SAFER for me to download, remove torrent, and ZAP... than it is for me to actually SHARE what I downloaded. Which means that unless I get a seedbox, I will be exploiting the points system to accrue enough ZAP/upload credit and make the community weaker...
 

Void

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Again... the issue isnt about ratio or points... its that your computer turning off ends up getting you banned regardless of points or ratio...

My ratio stayed at pretty much 1.5 with just about 600gb uploaded... but since the new HnR system, its SAFER for me to download, remove torrent, and ZAP... than it is for me to actually SHARE what I downloaded. Which means that unless I get a seedbox, I will be exploiting the points system to accrue enough ZAP/upload credit and make the community weaker...
Yeah, I don't disagree with any of you guys saying that the system is stupid. That's a fact. But it might take everyone doing exactly what you described, and posting about it, for them to realize how stupid it is. It really is making me reconsider having over 500 active torrents with them, because I'd be absolutely destroyed if I couldn't seed them for a week or two. So, this weekend I'll probably spend a couple of hours zapping a bunch of them.

View it like the MMO you play just introduced a new patch that is absolutely retarded and exploitable to hell and back, and everyone is complaining but the devs are saying that it is "working as intended." There's not much else you can do at that point except exploit the fuck out of it for your benefit until they realize just how horribly wrong they were. That's what it is going to take at IPT.
 

Zodiac

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I guess I don't really understand the system. I download shit to my seed box and then delete it a few days later. I've never used any points. Do you just get a HnR if you stop seeding before you are at 1to1 ratio?

Can't you just start seeding again if you turn your client off for a few days? On other trackers if you have a HnR you just add that torrent back to your client and point it to your (already downloaded) local files and then seed. It then removes the HnR.
 

Prodigal

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The easiest thing I found for ratio was to limit the search to FL torrents, then click on the leechers header to sort by the most popular torrents.
 

Joeboo

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I guess I don't really understand the system. I download shit to my seed box and then delete it a few days later. I've never used any points. Do you just get a HnR if you stop seeding before you are at 1to1 ratio?

Can't you just start seeding again if you turn your client off for a few days? On other trackers if you have a HnR you just add that torrent back to your client and point it to your (already downloaded) local files and then seed. It then removes the HnR.
Yes, you only get a Hit & Run if the torrent stops seeding before you get to a 1:1 ratio. I find that it's pretty hard to not get to a 1:1 within a week on anything unless it's some obscure piece of software or TV episode from like 6 years ago or something.
 

Void

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Yes, you only get a Hit & Run if the torrent stops seeding before you get to a 1:1 ratio. I find that it's pretty hard to not get to a 1:1 within a week on anything unless it's some obscure piece of software or TV episode from like 6 years ago or something.
I want to say that after a certain amount of time not seeding it you'll get a HnR, so if you went out of town for a few weeks all those "Torrents that need seeding" will turn to HnR's. I could be mistaken on that though.

Also, I don't know what you guys are downloading, but I have tons and tons of torrents from IPT that never hit 1:1, and likely never will. Even with my ability to seed 24/7, I don't have the fastest upload speed so I rarely hit 1:1 unless hardly anyone else has it but the demand is still decent. On the other hand, I have many torrents that I'm at like 100:1 on as well. Without a seedbox you're not really likely to get many of your torrents at 1:1. Which is where the zapping comes in, but like we've said, if you don't zap and something happens, you're fucked.
 

BoldW

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OK, seedbox is up!! Was extremely easy, even though I needed to chat support up to get me started. He called me bro so it's all good. Easy enough once you "get it" just using a torrent client on a diff server is all it is. Puppy is FAST.

So, shouldn't have any more issues. FL here I come to get me boosted up.
 

Cor_sl

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Well, this is interesting.

I just came across a 'pay as you go' seedbox service. It costs $7 for 1TB of bandwidth (this includes download and upload, so if you download 1gb and seed 1gb, this counts as 2gb total bandwidth), and they give you 20gb for free each month. Should be good for light users who don't upload/download a ton.

Link here -https://justseed.it/register/index.csp?ref=ilwufkrxxr(Note: that has my referral code on it; it gives me an extra 20gb of bandwidth credit. Use this link if you don't want me to get free shit -https://justseed.it).
 

Void

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Well, this is interesting.

I just came across a 'pay as you go' seedbox service. It costs $7 for 1TB of bandwidth (this includes download and upload, so if you download 1gb and seed 1gb, this counts as 2gb total bandwidth), and they give you 20gb for free each month. Should be good for light users who don't upload/download a ton.

Link here -https://justseed.it/register/index.csp?ref=ilwufkrxxr(Note: that has my referral code on it; it gives me an extra 20gb of bandwidth credit. Use this link if you don't want me to get free shit -https://justseed.it).
Huh, I might just give that a shot. I don't know that I necessarily spend $7 a month on electricity for my secondary computer being on all the time, but it is probably a couple of dollars and I have always wondered about using a seedbox, so I think I'll try it out. I'm assuming that you can sign up for the free version and then upgrade the bandwidth as you wish? It isn't really clear on the first page of your link. I'll search around more and check, but if you see this before I find it you probably already know the answer.

EDIT: In signing up it has you pick your torrent client. I don't want either of those choices, in particular because they aren't on the approved lists at many of the torrent sites, but also because I have never used them. Is that all I can have, or can I install something else later? If I'm stuck with those it looks like I'll need to use Deluge because a couple of the earlier versions are approved at IPT, but that proprietary one is definitely going to be a risk.

EDIT 2: Answered my first question, you just sign up and then buy blocks of bandwidth like you would with a newsgroup provider, so it isn't actually $7 a month like I assumed, it is just $7 for 1TB, so however long it takes you to use that up is how long you have it. However, it is pretty limited right now still (which I think is part of their business model with all the free accounts), so I'm not sure if this is going to be for me or not. If I can't have my BTN RSS feed go their automatically, for example, I'll need my own computer on anyway, so it would only be beneficial in upping my buffers/ratios, which I really don't need any help with. I was looking to completely replace my need for that computer, not just accumulate more ratio. I understand I'm not necessarily the target of your message, all the people complaining about ratio were, but just giving my opinions of the service. I'm still gonna mess around with it because it is free, but I was hopeful it was a complete replacement torrent client, basically. I'm guessing since I've never used a seedbox, that's a problem with my expectations more than anything.

Hopefully you get the referral credit from me signing up at least.
 

galgor

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I was looking to completely replace my need for that computer, not just accumulate more ratio. I understand I'm not necessarily the target of your message, all the people complaining about ratio were, but just giving my opinions of the service. I'm still gonna mess around with it because it is free, but I was hopeful it was a complete replacement torrent client, basically. I'm guessing since I've never used a seedbox, that's a problem with my expectations more than anything.
I've used several different providers for seedboxes over the years, despite having access to pretty decent internet. The reason being--pretty much the same as what you've stated. I needed a replacement for a torrent machine.

I didn't notice what torrent clients that website provides, but most seedbox providers let you use rtorrent or deluge. The nice thing about these is that both have web interfaces (like ruTorrent) that are pretty similar to uTorrent, which is native to most users. Both are full-featured and let you do RSS Feeds and such. The other nice thing is that most of these also allow you to set them up as a VPN, so you can get around firewalls to actually download your torrent files if necessary, then upload them to your web-based client. But most other seedbox alternatives are probably more expensive than you want to spend if seven dollars had you on the fence. The best value for me has ended up being Whatbox. It's also a good learning ground if your unfamiliar with the web interfaces and/or linux. A decent wiki, support-ticket system, and a few in-house designed tools to make the whole thing easier. The only downside is that you don't have full root access so you can't, for example, host your own minecraft server from the machine.

But to be honest, if your not after ratio and your budget is tight--newsgroups might be better for ya.
 

Void

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Nah, budget isn't why I was hesitating at all (I've been paying for a Giganews diamond account for years even though I could realistically have downgraded it long ago), it was simply that I don't see much point in getting a seedbox unless I can just turn off my second computer basically. If Deluge (the only non-proprietary torrent client they offer) will allow me to add RSS feeds, then perhaps this really is all I need. Their site is slow as fuck though, and I haven't had any luck actually logging in remotely or anything, so all I have to work with is their website right now, which isn't much, and there is nothing about RSS feeds there. I'm assuming I need to get into the actual box for that.

It gives me the IP and port of my seedbox in my account info. I tried remote desktop and straight browser access, and neither of them work for me. The RDP just hangs for 10+ minutes, and the browser comes back with random characters after awhile. Is there something else I should be using instead? If so, they don't say it anywhere that I could find.

EDIT: Correction, their site does nothing but time out for me now, so I can't even use that. Maybe Rerolled crashed their servers!
 

Void

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On a completely different, but torrent related, topic, if you can see the Invites forum on What.CD, the owner of BTN is offering unlimited invites. I know a lot of people were looking for BTN invites, so this is your chance. You might check any other torrent sites you are a member of as well if you can't see the What.CD one. I'm not certain if that forum is user class restricted or not, it used to be Power User and up I think but it isn't obvious anymore.

BTN is TV shows only, and all it requires is a couple of days of seeding per episode, and I think a week for an entire season pack. Ratio and upload still count for things like raising your user class, but if all you really care about is downloading shows and not worrying about Hit & Runs, zapping, etc. this system is for you. The only limitation I know of that will take people time to achieve is the ability to use RSS feeds, but if you donate one time (I want to say I gave $10), you get that ability forever after.

I absolutely fucking love BTN, the way it is laid out, the ratio system, the fact that nothing is in archive (rar, zip) format, the RSS feed lets you specific exactly what you want (mine is 720p mkv), and overall it is just a fantastic site for keeping up with current and semi-old shows. You're not going to find many 10-year old shows, but those would be hard to find anywhere I'd imagine.

Anyway, wanted to give everyone a head's up, because I know a bunch of people were disappointed they couldn't get an invite.
 

gogusrl

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I still have 3 invites to give away forwww.freshon.tv. It's the romanian tracker I'm using that sounds just like BTN (free rss, no archives, no dumb h&r rules) and it has pretty much every tv series ever aired. Considering everyone around here has 100mbps or better, speed shouldn't be a problem and ofcourse it has an english interface (and it's sometimes faster than ipt with new episodes).

Let me know if any of you want an invite. Please ask for one if you know you're gonna use it, not just create an account and forget about it.
 

Void

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Well, this is interesting.

I just came across a 'pay as you go' seedbox service. It costs $7 for 1TB of bandwidth (this includes download and upload, so if you download 1gb and seed 1gb, this counts as 2gb total bandwidth), and they give you 20gb for free each month. Should be good for light users who don't upload/download a ton.

Link here -https://justseed.it/register/index.csp?ref=ilwufkrxxr(Note: that has my referral code on it; it gives me an extra 20gb of bandwidth credit. Use this link if you don't want me to get free shit -https://justseed.it).
I have way too many fucking posts in this thread lately, sorry about that.

Been fucking around with this service most of the day instead of working, and after finding this thead:http://www.torrent-invites.com/seedb...free-data.htmland reading through some of it, things are a lot clearer to me. First, there is no direct access to the server, at all. You have to use the website to do everything, so right now stuff like RSS feeds are impossible. However, they mention several times that they intend to add it later, so I'll definitely keep an eye on it as an eventual replacement. For now though, it is still a pretty slick way of getting some quick ratio for people that need help.

Part of my problem was that the interface doesn't really make a lot of sense until you actually input a torrent file into it, and then you can see what the intent is. There is no ftp download, but they generate a link for any of the torrent files you want to directly download via http, which you could also share with others if you wanted to give a friend something but they weren't torrent aware. Those downloads come out of your overall bandwidth, so if you download a 1GB file and then download it to your home computer, that's 2GB gone, and then seeding it for another GB is 3 total. But, the service is actually pretty user friendly once you know wtf you are doing (FAQ page is kind of a joke), and since the bandwidth blocks you buy last until you use them up, it is actually a pretty sweet deal. Try it out, all it takes is registering an account and you automatically have the 20GB free. And give Cor some referral love, this is a perfect fix for a lot of you guys worried about ratios.

EDIT: And from reading that thread more (not done yet so it might change later in the thread) apparently during beta you can just send in a support ticket and ask for more bandwidth, so there's no reason for everyone not to give it a shot and get some free upload credit at a few torrent sites.
 

Zodiac

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I use whatbox.ca also and I'm totally happy. Almost zero downtime, no problems with rtorrent, and I've used the SSH tunnel extensively. The only traffic that counts against you on whatbox is the upload traffic so you can download / tunnel as much as you want. If you do get a box overseas you need an ftp client that can handle multiple threads to get the best download speed from your box though.