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The shadow hanging over the first episode is an unsolved murder, Mary Sue indeed
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The shadow hanging over the first episode is an unsolved murder, Mary Sue indeed
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The TD show is never going to be judged against the dime store trash novels of yesteryear. All seasons after S01 will be judged against S01, as they should be. And S01 set a really, really high bar.
As for this season, after 1 epsiode I'm pretty meh. I think it misses a ton of the subtlety, subtext, and nuance of S01. A reviewer mentioned that it seems specifically tailored to a young female audience- which is fine, but since I'm not in that demographic it's missing me a little bit. Not terrible but not overly compelling so far.
I'll probably watch ep 2 bc my wife likes it and it wasn't awful.
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jayrebb
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I swear if she just raised her voice even 10% for some of those scenes at the beginning, it would have carried a lot better throughout the episode.
There's a few specific establishing moments in the first half of the episode where it's jarring how quiet she is given what they are having her say.
Pulls you right out of the atmosphere of whatever believability there is supposed to be.
Zapatta
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S1 would have been exactly that kind of dime store pulp trash if McConaughey didn't go full glue huffing meth diet method actor. That one character and his delivery raised to bar too high for everything after. Everyone else is Vince Vaughn trying to play a villain.
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Arden
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No lol. The writing in S01 was awesome. For sure McConaughey made it even better, but you're crazy if you're comparing the S01 script to dime store stuff.
Zapatta
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You strip out all the high tier actors, atmospheric cinematography, low hum droning sounds and artsy color tinting and the S1 script is a bunch over over the top cliche scenarios strung together one after another. It is a love letter to pulp.
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Arden
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Respectfully disagree. The philosophical issues the script tackles and the depth of the dialog go way, way beyond the scope of dime store stuff (not that I have anything against pulp- it has its place, but this isn't pulp).
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jayrebb
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popsicledeath
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Strip out most of the components that go into a quality production and the production isn't going to seem high quality? That's some high level analysis.
And I'm not a huge defender of the season 1 writing in a vacuum. It's clear it took PizzaLotto many years to hammer that thing into something that could be elevated, as opposed to the sophomore slump that happened (as often does) when he was asked to do it again on short notice.
It's also clear season 1 wasn't just some shallow, dime store, plot driven story that was only made watchable by all the other elements elevating it.
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Zapatta
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Most of it was, and that is exactly what made it great.
Rust spouting Nihilist rhetoric and then finding Jesus at the end was the only thing that's wasn't pure off the shelf pulp. And I don't think anyone but McConaughey could have sold it.
S1 wasn't high brow, it was cheap noir.
None of the seasons are all that different, they just never wrote another character as interesting as Rust.
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popsicledeath
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You're funny. Do you take requests? I'd like to see you deconstruct more shows by simply pointing out if you take away elements that make it good it more resembles genres that don't have the expectation of those elements.
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Gutterflesh
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Silence of the Caribou with a bunch of dykes and modern day girl power. The supernatural aspect of the show is more believable than the casting and writing.
I might revisit this one when it all drops, but based on the first episode this one is getting a nope from me.
I might revisit this one when it all drops, but based on the first episode this one is getting a nope from me.
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reavor
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Rust was only interesting because he was played off against the ying to his yang Marty in a solid "unlikely pair" element. Also a dark plot that continued until the very end, unlike season 3, where it was dark but at the end just sort of dissolved to "oh well, it was all kind of a misunderstanding, they meant well, anyways racists are the real villains".
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Zapatta
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My point is if they had Rust played by Jake Gyllenhaal and Ryan Gosling as Marty S1 would have been as 'bad' as S2.
The shows basic formula has never really changed, they just had 2 academy award winners out of the gate.
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The_Black_Log Foler
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How dare you. Ryan Gosling is a nation treasure. He’s one of the best actors of our time.
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DickTrickle
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Did you just shit on Jake Gyllenhaal? Maybe you need to take a rest there, champ.
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