Trans fish aren't natural. Our ancestors didn't set out to teach their children how to fish, then stop to point out the lone flamboyantly Trans fish swimming backwards and yodeling like it was in a Ricola commercial.
"That be a Transfish, me whelps, and you best learn to leave them be, lest they grow legs and follow you around, demanding ye use all manner of crazy words"
So human Trans change their DNA, and aren't just pretending?Some are. There’s one fish that starts as female, lays it’s eggs after mating, then goes into a safe area and basically all but dies. While it’s laying there it enlarges, it’s head turns huge, it’s DNA changes, and it turns into a male. It then goes out to find females to impregnate to start the trans cycle on them. It’s funny, when I saw this segment on blue planet 2 a few months ago, I thought of this thread. “God damn, trannies are natural!” These fish are FtM though.
Transgender fish filmed changing sex for BBC’s Blue Planet II
Mating is never easy when you have an unsightly bulbous appendage protruding from your head.www.telegraph.co.uk
So human Trans change their DNA, and aren't just pretending?
I don't know enough about biology to know that, or know anyone who I would think does. I don't buy the argument that "if trans birds existed then birds wouldn't exist." People said the same thing about homosexuality, plainly not true. I have no idea if there are trans fish or not. Similarly, I have no idea about the mental capacity for fish to have the underlying mental health issues talked about here. Like, do fish have body or gender dysmorphia? Who the fuck knows? Are there schizophrenic or depressed fish? Man I don't know. Is "trans" syndrome caused by a single thing, group of things, huge swathe of factors? I doubt anyone on earth understands it well enough to say for certain. With so many unanswered questions on the topic, there seems to be a lot of people waving around pronouncements and knowledge they couldn't possibly have. Like, how the fuck could we know about the long term effects of reversing the effects of puberty blockers and secondary effects of that? Yeah, they've been used for a while but in pretty limited, specific ways. It's a huge ethical issue, but it isn't simple.It's biology. Evolutionary biology to be exact.
'Trans' appears to me to be a purely sociological and psychological phenomenon. Not biological, and certainly not supported by evolution.
Males and Females are a biological phenomenon. They exist because they work. Males who think they are females (or vice-versa) is either psychological or sociological in origin. Both things requiring an animal with a higher functioning brain (aka humans).
'Trans' as a thing does not work in evolution. If there were Trans birds, birds would no longer exist.
There are no Trans fish. But there are Male fish and Female fish.
I could 'wall-of-text' this subject but I think I've made my point. Remember, I asked Vanessa to read Origin of Species for a reason. Hodge thought it was some sort of Atheist argument but it was deeper than that.
TL;DR: Biology should be a pre-requisite of Sociology and Psychology.
If you go down the rabbit hole of Sociology and Psychology without having fist done at least Biology and Chemistry, then you are completely and absolutely lost.
Zizek is fun though. Sometimes makes good arguments and his Perverts guide to cinema are great movies.
He's a commie and therefore garbage. You lose a debate to garbage, that makes you less than garbage.
You didn't listen to the debate.
First of all... I summon @Dom here. Son, I am disappoint.
You took the most beloved icons of peace, calm and love and changed it into one of the most horrific things I've ever seen on the internet.
Situated on my dashboard is this Funko Pop of Bob that has guided me through thick and thin of all manner of near accidents, rear-endings, Taco Bell orders, crazy getting-to-work-at-inhuman-times mornings, and even one dead animal that I hit (I started crying... serious) that I don't even know what it was, I just looked under my car when I pulled off the side of the road and saw blood and fur... i cri evry tiem.
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Bob is my anchor there because I think there is no place in the world where I lose my shit more than in my car. So when I start losing my shit because this potential-illegal is just SITTING at a blinking yellow arrow traffic light with no traffic coming because he thinks it means [cuidado!] don't go! I turn to Bob and get perspective. I get peace. I get clarity.
So what in the hell is this abomination?
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This... THIS makes me want to quit the forum more than any shit slinging anyone could ever throw my way. This transition from Bob to this is just... I'm horrified.
It's very sad. To think, how unhappy he was, then became she, and it just got worse. And for some reason that isnt an uncommon story.
I'm surprised no one has catered to your request yet.I’ll be honest I’m not aware of this situation. Is there somewhere I can read about this to educate myself?
We change our hormones and some pretend and some do not pretend. I wish there was an easy, no-frills litmus test for this, I really do. Maybe Elizabeth Holmes could rebound and get a GD diagnostic patented before Christmas!So human Trans change their DNA, and aren't just pretending?
You don't change your hormones. You inject hormones and other homologous compounds because you're insane.We change our hormones and some pretend and some do not pretend. I wish there was an easy, no-frills litmus test for this, I really do. Maybe Elizabeth Holmes could rebound and get a GD diagnostic patented before Christmas!
So Sabbat disappeared from the thread... that's a pity. This post is a little over a month old:
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^ I screenshotted it instead of quoted it to capture the quote within the quote too from this other guy I don't even know who he is.
I think he got his corrections after reading a Kenneth Zucker article or two because Sabbat mentioned him later (or perhaps before) in the thread... can't remember exactly. Perhaps he can clarify where he got this info. Speaking of Kenneth Zucker (and the reason I even quoted this old screenie):
One thing I can do is thank Sabbat a million times over for introducing me to this guy. He's actually amazing the more I read up on his ideas and practices about Gender Dysphoria and treatment of transsexuals like myself. He's apparently a HUGE name in the clinical treatment of trannies and has written a shitton of work, and was integral to writing the DSM guidelines on diagnosis and treatment of GD.
To be brief, here is his Wiki, here is an article detailing how he got fired because of radical leftists calling his work transphobic and telling lies about him, and here is his story of vindication/reinstatement.
In summary, we share a lot of the same views about this stuff. He's pro INDIVIDUALS first and foremost.. getting the right treatment to the right people based on their unique circumstances. Hmmm... who's been saying that since the beginning regarding all of this? Ideally, a non-transitioning child or person would be best if it is possible by psychotherapeutic means rather than a full-blown social transition. However, with the small number of highly dysphoric adolescents he supports blockers & social transition if mere psychotherapy isn't enough to quell / counsel through the perceived GD (i.e. true trannies~).
Amazing how one of the most esteemed gender researchers on the planet shares views with the "crazy tranny" here at FoH in terms of how to deal with us, both young and old. It's almost like... I dunno... I knew what I was talking about from day 1 here and my detractors are pulling at straws? Of course the funniest part was that for the first 100 pages or so people would ask questions and I'd answer and no one except the most radical of kooks (Hodj/wormie etc) would try to dismiss it, and yet when push came to shove and my claims were actually legitimately scrutinized because everyone started getting triggered over puberty blockers and I provided scientific research papers to back up my claims, THAT'S when the lunatics were loosed and vehemently denying what I've been saying for years here. It's ironic as hell to me how all of this has unfolded over time, and quite amusing too.
We change our hormones and some pretend and some do not pretend. I wish there was an easy, no-frills litmus test for this, I really do. Maybe Elizabeth Holmes could rebound and get a GD diagnostic patented before Christmas!
So Sabbat disappeared from the thread... that's a pity. This post is a little over a month old:
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^ I screenshotted it instead of quoted it to capture the quote within the quote too from this other guy I don't even know who he is.
I think he got his corrections after reading a Kenneth Zucker article or two because Sabbat mentioned him later (or perhaps before) in the thread... can't remember exactly. Perhaps he can clarify where he got this info. Speaking of Kenneth Zucker (and the reason I even quoted this old screenie):
One thing I can do is thank Sabbat a million times over for introducing me to this guy. He's actually amazing the more I read up on his ideas and practices about Gender Dysphoria and treatment of transsexuals like myself. He's apparently a HUGE name in the clinical treatment of trannies and has written a shitton of work, and was integral to writing the DSM guidelines on diagnosis and treatment of GD.
To be brief, here is his Wiki, here is an article detailing how he got fired because of radical leftists calling his work transphobic and telling lies about him, and here is his story of vindication/reinstatement.
In summary, we share a lot of the same views about this stuff. He's pro INDIVIDUALS first and foremost.. getting the right treatment to the right people based on their unique circumstances. Hmmm... who's been saying that since the beginning regarding all of this? Ideally, a non-transitioning child or person would be best if it is possible by psychotherapeutic means rather than a full-blown social transition. However, with the small number of highly dysphoric adolescents he supports blockers & social transition if mere psychotherapy isn't enough to quell / counsel through the perceived GD (i.e. true trannies~).
Amazing how one of the most esteemed gender researchers on the planet shares views with the "crazy tranny" here at FoH in terms of how to deal with us, both young and old. It's almost like... I dunno... I knew what I was talking about from day 1 here and my detractors are pulling at straws? Of course the funniest part was that for the first 100 pages or so people would ask questions and I'd answer and no one except the most radical of kooks (Hodj/wormie etc) would try to dismiss it, and yet when push came to shove and my claims were actually legitimately scrutinized because everyone started getting triggered over puberty blockers and I provided scientific research papers to back up my claims, THAT'S when the lunatics were loosed and vehemently denying what I've been saying for years here. It's ironic as hell to me how all of this has unfolded over time, and quite amusing too.
You know what time it is boys.
/victory lap
You don't change your hormones. You inject hormones and other homologous compounds because you're insane.
There is a difference.
All I'm doing is being the voice of restraint in this thread bruh.