kegkilla
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I would imagine a tranny's market value would go down after getting their dick chopped. I would think that a lot of the appeal comes from the chick with dick fetish.
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Vanessa's Tranny AMA Blog Thread
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Hoss
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There are no chicks with dicks. Only dudes with boobs!
Vanessa
After the smashing success of the 'day without and illegal immigrant', and more recently the 'day without a woman', I wonder if there is there a 'Day without a Tranny' planned? If so, please keep us informed. Or did you just stay home on the day without a woman?
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zombiewizardhawk
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Fat chicks love me, dude. I just haven't gotten lonely enough to roll with it yet.
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Vanessa
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There are no chicks with dicks. Only dudes with boobs!
Or did you just stay home on the day without a woman?
--You've got male-- !
I don't know what those days are tbh; I don't watch the news, but sure; I hereby bequeath that tomorrow, March 10th will be "Day Without a Tranny". I will go all day without any activity here, I promise. For you, Hoss.
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Hoss
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--You've got male-- !
I don't know what those days are tbh; I don't watch the news, but sure; I hereby bequeath that tomorrow, March 10th will be "Day Without a Tranny". I will go all day without any activity here, I promise. For you, Hoss.
What makes you think I'm trying to shut you up? There's a couple here at work that I'm curious about. So if there was a real day without a tranny, and they didn't show up, my questions would be answered.
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Enzee
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I think your big disconnect here is that you are equating biological sex with gender.
The people advocating for trans see those as two separate things. Being 'female' means acting and looking feminine.
The part I can never understand is that most anti-trans people, especially the conservative right type, also seem to want females to act a certain way and males to act another. i.e. housewife taking care of kids, supporting their man, etc.. Trans people, on average, AGREE with that, which is why they feel female or male. They like the gender roles, but feel they got the wrong one.
Our society is not accepting of males acting feminine or females acting masculine, and that's where the discomfort comes from, imo. But, when a trans tries to make their look and personality fit the gender role they identify with, for the sake of those who are uncomfortable with the idea, they get hated on by those same people as well. It's really a lose-lose situation for them. Especially all the talk about the 'correct' pronoun for them being their biological one is such bullshit, because if they are passable you wouldn't use their 'correct' pronoun and you wouldn't know or care. That's why so many even get bottom surgery, so there is just no real evidence left and they can escape the hatred (if they are lucky).
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I am not going to head into a political derail, but I don't think you should be painting "the conservative right" with such a broad brush. Too many folks today equate modern conservatives with religious conservatives. The religious aspect is really only one branch of modern conservatism. I am a conservative and yet I don't care who you fuck, where you fuck or what position you fuck in. I just care that all parties involved are old enough and hopefully sober enough to consent. Enjoy your freedoms just do no harm.
Back on track to the anti-trans thing, I personally feel it has less to do with ideology (although that is what drives it in some folks) and more to do with the deep seated inner workings of the anti-trans (and probably anti-gay) individual. Either they have suppressed desires, suppressed shame, suppressed anger, suppressed fear or as is likely the case a combination of most/all of the above. Mix in a healthy dose of human's general feelings of discomfort around anyone who is 'different' and there is your recipe.
A link to a copy of a paper presented at the 2010 APSA (American Political Science Association) annual meeting that discusses the four branches of modern conservatism.
Four Heads and One Heart: The Modern Conservative Movement by James W. Ceaser :: SSRN
zzeris
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That's a pretty broad analysis too. Since the earliest humans, there have been sexual preferences and this muddies the waters. Crossdressers and feminine looking men may not be an entirely new phenomena but having a male with a great set of tits, and looking better than a lot of women through hormones is really new. I agree that people don't like new and change but the primary issue is that people go out looking for a particular experience. Add hormones, the human genetic need for procreation, and needing to blow off stress to the mix...and you have serious issues when the experience isn't as desired. It can get nasty and I'm glad Vanessa is smart about her dating.
I find that everyone is a psychologist today trying to find the deep seated issues with all the other people out there. Usually, it's just feeling deceived no matter how well the trans person has tried to be honest.
Sanrith Descartes
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I wasn't addressing the issue of someone being fooled and the trans person not disclosing. I can clearly see that case bringing on some serious negative emotions. I believe that the reason people are trying to look at the "deep seated issues" in others is that a lot of people go with the nurture side of the nature vs nurture argument. If one sides with nurture, the it is all of those life experiences (positive and negative) that create those deep seated issues in all of us. And it is those same issues that drive us to do and say and feel the way we do. Are people who are anti-trans genetically wired to be that way or is it a learned response based on their own issues? Are trans folks genetically wired that way or is it a result of life experiences? I have no idea whatsoever but there are lots of folks who are in one camp or the other.
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Vanessa
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Thank you for your understanding on the matter. I had a relatively long post written in draft that I didn't finish in response to that very quote "You do realize you're male, right?" but I'm dumb and lost it somehow. I don't feel like typing out a long-winded reply again; bed is looking tasty.
But to answer the question in a terse manner: No, I don't realize that, Sylas... it's not that cut and dry. I DO realize I was born male. This we can agree on.
Wired. I have no motive or agenda to push here; I don't give a flaming fuck if people think I'm lying or not, and I don't give a flaming fuck if I change someone's mind about it or not. I'm just telling the truth and that's all I'm doing here guys. It's my life and my plight... the pilot should know what the plane is doing much more than then people on the ground.
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There was a legit tranny at the sushi place tonight. Pink hair, glittery eye makeup, rainbow skull cap, pierced nose, no tits, huge manly nose and hands, tons of makeup on, yoga pants.... but with a shirt tied around xis waist so that the cheeks in the back were showing but the bulge in front was covered.
I knew it was a tranny right away but it was %100 confirmed when xe went into the men's bathroom.
Knowing Vanessa an Morrow and Jerle and a couple others, I am actually less curious about the pink haired tranny and moreso about the green haired guy she was with.
Did he think it was a girl, or did he know he was with a tranny? If he did know, then I would want to ask him if he thought himself to be gay. And if he said 'no' to that? .......?
These postmodernist kids are not quite within my grasp of comprehension.
I knew it was a tranny right away but it was %100 confirmed when xe went into the men's bathroom.
Knowing Vanessa an Morrow and Jerle and a couple others, I am actually less curious about the pink haired tranny and moreso about the green haired guy she was with.
Did he think it was a girl, or did he know he was with a tranny? If he did know, then I would want to ask him if he thought himself to be gay. And if he said 'no' to that? .......?
These postmodernist kids are not quite within my grasp of comprehension.
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Real talk:
How fast would any other species in nature go extinct if they started fucking with their own basic gender binary?
They would become food almost immediately. People sometimes don't appreciate how fierce competition in nature really is.
Our brains have allowed us to escape the raw brutality of even the most scenic cottage garden. Even inside that idyllic thing, there is competition and struggle on unimaginable levels.
I would never advocate that, politically or economically, Vanessa should be hindered in many or most ways. She could be elected President or invent the iPhone or film The Matrix for all I care. Power to ya.
But the general trend of our culture towards some sort of blur on gender is probably not actually healthy for the biology of the animal in which this blurry meme resides.
I can't imagine such a thing as a transgendered or pangendered conifer tree. How would such a thing even function? You have to appreciate how deep the genetic binary of sex runs to appreciate how relatively non-fluid it is. The binary works.
Repetition works, David.
Repetition works, David.
The binary works. It works in pine trees and tulips and whales and beetles and bacteria. The other stuff is the social construct.
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Vanessa, what is your explanation for how nature produced you? Not society, nature. If your answer is sociological, then that's okay. But don't mistake a sociological answer with a biological one. You seem based and objective. But I admit I have not read every word of this thread. Anyway, I would be curious to know to what level you are able to explain your situation in biological terms.
How fast would any other species in nature go extinct if they started fucking with their own basic gender binary?
They would become food almost immediately. People sometimes don't appreciate how fierce competition in nature really is.
Our brains have allowed us to escape the raw brutality of even the most scenic cottage garden. Even inside that idyllic thing, there is competition and struggle on unimaginable levels.
I would never advocate that, politically or economically, Vanessa should be hindered in many or most ways. She could be elected President or invent the iPhone or film The Matrix for all I care. Power to ya.
But the general trend of our culture towards some sort of blur on gender is probably not actually healthy for the biology of the animal in which this blurry meme resides.
I can't imagine such a thing as a transgendered or pangendered conifer tree. How would such a thing even function? You have to appreciate how deep the genetic binary of sex runs to appreciate how relatively non-fluid it is. The binary works.
Repetition works, David.
Repetition works, David.
The binary works. It works in pine trees and tulips and whales and beetles and bacteria. The other stuff is the social construct.
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Vanessa, what is your explanation for how nature produced you? Not society, nature. If your answer is sociological, then that's okay. But don't mistake a sociological answer with a biological one. You seem based and objective. But I admit I have not read every word of this thread. Anyway, I would be curious to know to what level you are able to explain your situation in biological terms.
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jayrebb
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WOAH! Slow down, chief. The Wachowski's did not invent The Matrix. They wrote a great screenplay that was largely based on others ideas, namely a few scripts in particular that were submitted for review decades earlier.
They deserve a lot of credit, but invent might be going it too strong.
The story in question, "Third Eye", was submitted at this time. "Third Eye" had already been copyrighted in 1983 before being submitted.
tldr; The legal play-by-play speaks for itself. The author lacked enough funding (and the right law firm) to get justice. The author was, however, able to secure a settlement against her representation in the civil case against the Wachowski's.
Very telling, that when the judge awarded attorney's fees to the Wachowski's upon dismissal, they never asked for the 305,235.62 they were owed. A little civil court inside hand-shake likely took place.
Because I know that when a big business friend of mine sued another major corporation, there was tremendous pressure by the billion-dollar dog "Take it easy, alright?" before opening arguments began the day of trial. The small dog attorney told his client there was nothing he could do, and he was going to have to take cues from them essentially and make a "fair and conservative" argument because he couldn't risk having his law firm targeted by the big dog law firm for damages in a counter-suit.
Law firms/lawyers take on more liability than people realize. 50 Cent just secured a 14.1 million dollar malpractice judgement against a law firm in his SMS headphones case.
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That's not what I meant, though I understand why you might be defensive since it is more often the case then not. I was saying that in the subset of 'anti-trans' people, the ones who are ALSO conservative right, seem to be thinking without any logic involved. It's their own preferences for 'normal' gender roles that happens to be an influence on why trans people want a specific pronoun.
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I think you are finding evidence to support your own notions. First off, humans are able to evolve past nature, that's why we are so great. We aren't still clubbing and raping our women, and men aren't required to go kill deer with their bare hands to eat. Women are allowed to leave the home now, men can raise kids, heck.. we also learned how to make tools at some point, which no other species has. To use our historic roots as support for an issue that requires greater cognitive abilities to discuss is irrelevant to the argument. That's like saying if your job isn't hunting or farming, you aren't a man. Or, that we should all be living in trees eating bananas, cause that's what nature intended for our ancestors and who are we to argue? Even if you disagree with that, there's plenty of examples in nature of non-binary sexes. Many species reproduce asexually, and some even swap genders when there is a shortage of the opposite sex. The binary evolved as the simplest way to spread genes and force evolution without inbreeding. That's it. It has little to no bearing on where we can go as a species due to the intelligence we evolved along the way.
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"Evolve past nature". What the fuck do those loaded words even mean?That's not what I meant, though I understand why you might be defensive since it is more often the case then not. I was saying that in the subset of 'anti-trans' people, the ones who are ALSO conservative right, seem to be thinking without any logic involved. It's their own preferences for 'normal' gender roles that happens to be an influence on why trans people want a specific pronoun.
Even if you disagree with that, there's plenty of examples in nature of non-binary sexes. Many species reproduce asexually, and some even swap genders when there is a shortage of the opposite sex. The binary evolved as the simplest way to spread genes and force evolution without inbreeding. That's it. It has little to no bearing on where we can go as a species due to the intelligence we evolved along the way.
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