Victims of Net Neutrality

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Did you really just link to Verizon's explanation for how their shitty extortionist practices aren't their fault? Wow.
 
chaos

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Palum_sl said:
That's not the case as far as I can find. The ISPs are standing by their right to charge for bandwidth. While theywouldlove the opportunity to charge for specific content transmission, I still don't see that as the case even since the 2010 FCC regs were shut down in court. That doesn't mean they aren't extorting companies, though.

Verizon's summation is fairly accurate of the technical position and their business interests. Of course you need a grain of salt due to the fact that they stand to make money form it:

Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth | Verizon Public Policy

However, the focal point is that all of these ISPs want Netflix to make arrangements with every ISP between them and the customer commensurate with the data they use and the infrastructure costs so that itdoesn'toverload the network. Let's not forget Netflix stands to gain financially for this as well, though. What Netflix wants is to pay their ISPs a flat rate without any care for infrastructure concerns to the end-user. They want to be subsidized by the end-user. If you have a very granite heavy geographical location with extreme installation costs or perhaps Alaska, low population and higher rates, that should be subsidized by the rest of the ISPs to provide Netflix usable bandwidth for one low cost without the need to 'negotiate' to increase bandwidth to be acceptable for Netflix services.

Netflix is not innocent in all of this, they want to make their bucks too and damn the consequences.
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Netflix already pays their ISP, their ISPs already pay the end-user ISPs, everyone is already making money hand over fist. No one in this equation is losing money, not Netflix or L3 or Verizon or Comcast. L3 (or whoever) already makes a deal with Comcast (or whoever) that factors in how much bandwidth they need at the peering level. Of course, just like consumer level agreements, they don't want you to actually use the bandwidth they sell, so they act as if they are being hosed when the reality is quite the opposite. The whole thing, the whole deal, is about whether or not the end-user ISPs also have the right to charge the edge content providers and adjust their service according to payment. You're getting hung up in the weeds, this is the big picture, what it is really all about. One side says that is fucked up, the other side says hey nice service you got there, would be a shame if anything happened to it. Netflix even tried to get everyone on board with their cache server program, it isn't as if they haven't been sensitive to ISP concerns about external bandwidth usage. But that isn't what they want, Comcast et al want mroe control over the internet as a whole, because they control access to the customers, because we allowed our internet service to become monopolized in this country. So they will probably win out.
 
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Reposting this from another thread:
Was an interesting watch from a business and a layman person's view.

 
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