Vikings

Is the princess like a foot taller than Ragnar? Do they have to have him stand on a box or her stand in a hole so that he appears to be taller that her?

Fingz_sl said:

Is the princess like a foot taller than Ragnar? Do they have to have him stand on a box or her stand in a hole so that he appears to be taller that her?

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She is tall, so more then likely yes.

I thought tonight's episode was excellent.

For real. Lagertha is so fucking hot and awesome, Ragnar needs to drop that slanty-eyebrowed giraffe and go after Lagertha.

I like the battle in this last episode, much more historically accurate, imo. It's like a big shoving match and they use spears because spears give you reach. Now if they would wear helmets, your head is one of your most vulnerable spots.

A lot of historians on reddit say it's not historically accurate but I think the show is a big step forward compared to other Viking shows.

Tidbit Scaledclaw_sl said:

She is tall, so more then likely yes.

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Well iMDB wise he's credited at 6' while derpy eyes princess is 5'3/4, so they'd be most likely the same height. Him wearing armor most of the time and her wearing slender dresses should make a difference. Show isn't awful but that whole wife drama turned it into a middle age dallas. It's a shame since most battles are well perfomed (most people run for their lives as soon as the wind turns, and melee is a huge mess) and general ambiance is kinda well depicted. Also no, head wouldn't be a major flaw in battles, limbs and shoulders (because of slash hits) would be the most exposable parts, in those kind of battles.

Bondurant_sl said:

Well iMDB wise he's credited at 6' while derpy eyes princess is 5'3/4, so they'd be most likely the same height. Him wearing armor most of the time and her wearing slender dresses should make a difference. Show isn't awful but that whole wife drama turned it into a middle age dallas. It's a shame since most battles are well perfomed (most people run for their lives as soon as the wind turns, and melee is a huge mess) and general ambiance is kinda well depicted. Also no, head wouldn't be a major flaw in battles, limbs and shoulders (because of slash hits) would be the most exposable parts, in those kind of battles.

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You should post your findings on r/askhistorians. I'm sure they would be interested.

Most casualties would happen when a side broke and ran, leaving their backsides exposed.

Fantastic tonight.
Does Lagertha now get to come home that he is dead?

I really wish that they had devoted an episode to Lagertha in her new land, she has supposedly been there now for 5+ years and yet we know nothing about how that community views her or indeed anything about anyone there besides her husband. How did she organize a war band without her lords approval, who was the man with the sword and what does he think of Lagertha? This is my #1 complaint about this show; that the writers never establish a foundation for the story and instead focus myopically on a few personalities that are able to do what they do because apparently everyone else thinks that they are awesome. Ancillary characters are ignored to the point of absurdity; Ragnar's murdered followers in season one, the messenger who met with Rollo and Borg and then died in the battle, and the man whose support apparently meant so much to Rollo when he was boarding ship to meet with Borg this episode... who are these people? Why does anyone else care what they think? How the hell should I know?

Don't get me wrong I do like the show, a lot, but it's frustrating when things could be so dramatically improved with a bit more effort. Also, Lagertha totally should have had her breasts exposed while standing with the bloody knife upraised and back lit by a large fire... she would have looked like a goddess.

Vikings didn't get renewed until after the 4th episode had aired, which means the other 6 are probably already finished, or close to done. It's kind of hard to do a series like this when you don't know if you'll be getting renewed, so they go for ratings, which means hitting the big stories and following the main characters as much as they can, and since they only have 10 episodes per season a lot of stuff loses out.

Tonight's episode was damn good. If they continue to follow the chronicles of Saxo, Lagertha will become the new Jarl.

I loved the little conversation with the Wessex king; that some Christians there believed that Rome was a race of giants; lol.

More raping and killing, less Real Housewives of Jutland. Betray, ally, betray, ally, etc, etc is really wearing thin.

Also think English King dude is buttering up Priest Boy for buttsex.

Jais_sl said:

More raping and killing, less Real Housewives of Jutland. Betray, ally, betray, ally, etc, etc is really wearing thin.

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Yeah the village strongman politics, which amounts to nothing much more than thoughtful stares then sudden violence is a lot less entertaining than the actual raiding. It would have been more interesting if Ragnar had actually decided to be true to his word to begin with (the pact) then we could have seen some conflicting interests abroad over actual prizes instead of a battle over impoverished huts, stony fields and plenty of screen time for the princess (of what btw?) who no one seems like watching very much. Instead borg is probably going to escape and we get to have the whole season devoted to him for no good reason like it was with the previous Jarl.

And then twists of twists, King guy and Borg ally against Ragnar!

She may be setting it up so that Rollo (eventually?) takes out all of Ragnar's allies. She wants him to be jarl, ''I rise as he does,'' etc. etc. etc. Either that or it was thrown in there for general shock factor? The crucifixion scene would fall under the same category I'd guess, because I really don't think English Christians were crucifying people for apostasy.

King Eckbert is awesome, as far as I'm concerned he's the protagonist in the show now.

Hoss_sl said:

In fairness, there probably aren't a lot of stories to work with about anyone but the main people. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they're staying fairly historically accurate, aren't that? Sure there are some liberties being taken, and it's not as accurate as a typical history channel documentary, but I think it's also not complete fiction only loosely based on historical events. As far as I know, it falls somewhere in between, and that's one of the things I like about the show.

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The show is loosely based on historical figures, but that history is mostly made up of bullet points anyway. The Vikings weren't exactly good record keepers, so most of what we know about their history comes from songs and epic poems and such, which could be passed down from generation to generation verbally.
Ragnar Lothbrok is a folklore character, in the same sense that John Henry and Johnny Appleseed are. They all existed and became known for their deeds, but somewhere along the line the story got exaggerated and fictionalized, so the true accounts of these people are lost. The series has followed the historic events of what is known about Ragnar pretty faithfully. If they had an order for 3-4 seasons the show would be a lot less disjointed, though.