Visions of Grandeur (making dad-servers great again!)
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Alexzander
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It definitely is harder.
On VoG, I couldn't 4 box Vindi with Warrior/Rogue/Ench/Cleric. I had to swap out my Ench for a Necro to have the DPS; my cleric would go OOM otherwise. Doze would be impossible for my boxes on VoG, where as I farmed full Doze gear while waiting for a Vulak flag on NL (due to odd play times).
But maybe I'm just bad.
Deruvian
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I definitely just duo'd Vyemm in TOV with War/Monk only using healing pots, and they're only in Velious gear. (Third box got shot into the lava when the fight started :/)
Now, I have max AA's and the ability to use glyphs pretty liberally, but yeah.
Now, I have max AA's and the ability to use glyphs pretty liberally, but yeah.
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Control
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very few ph's in vanilla/kunark, and things get a little more placeholdery as you move on. I think the veksar nameds are mostly at 50% chance
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Control
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There's often 30+ on, though many are boxes of course. Not sure how easy it is to group, but I have ran into a number of people who prefer to play single accounts and more who don't want to do anything more than duo. It's way easier than real eq, but it's not a cakewalk solo. On the upside, a single player can still bring a lot to a 4box group by doing the things that boxers aren't typically great at.
Control
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Holy shit, it's been a long time since I posted in this thread! My little experiment gets to celebrate its 2nd Christmas! From the old posts, it looks like I spent last Christmas updating broken quests lol. This one is a little more fun
Fabled spawns are HIGHLY increased (just for the holiday), and 4 new ones were added!
Ykesha, chardokb, solc, and Paw(revamped) are open!
and Peras has a few Christmas treats!
Fabled spawns are HIGHLY increased (just for the holiday), and 4 new ones were added!
Ykesha, chardokb, solc, and Paw(revamped) are open!
and Peras has a few Christmas treats!
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Jysin
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Tried firing this up for a nostalgia run. Created a new Enchanter and gave up fairly early. I fucked up and didn't research the class choice. The tweaks to the server don't really favor the Enchanter class whatsoever and in fact, make it a very poor choice. The server charm slot item boosts summoned pets nicely for a Necro / Mage. Chanters rely on charmed pets, but with the nerf to mob damage output, it screws the charm spell ability completely.
Then rolled a Necro into my 50s and lost interest. The server is fun, but the balance is quite different to what Maze's NL server was. Not sure if it was dumb luck or genius, but NL had that power balance just perfect. I think there's just a touch too much on the difficulty level here, which isn't bad in itself... however, on these type of low population Emus, it just forces people to box their ass off or find other non-existent players to group with. Counteracts the point of a "Dad Server".
Props to
Control
for continuing work here though. Wish there were more Emu's focused on a fun sightseeing nostalgia tour of Norrath like this. Seems like there's either hardcore P99 types or 6-12+ box MQ2 required servers galore.
Then rolled a Necro into my 50s and lost interest. The server is fun, but the balance is quite different to what Maze's NL server was. Not sure if it was dumb luck or genius, but NL had that power balance just perfect. I think there's just a touch too much on the difficulty level here, which isn't bad in itself... however, on these type of low population Emus, it just forces people to box their ass off or find other non-existent players to group with. Counteracts the point of a "Dad Server".
Props to
Control
for continuing work here though. Wish there were more Emu's focused on a fun sightseeing nostalgia tour of Norrath like this. Seems like there's either hardcore P99 types or 6-12+ box MQ2 required servers galore.- 1
Control
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Thanks for the feedback! Sadly, my balance tweaking has sort of fallen off for various reasons, though it's always very subjective of course.
Just as a note on chanters, I realize that they're in a really weird spot on this server, but compared to live, the guaranteed duration charm and reduction in mob MR are huge buffs, and charmed-mob damage is the same relatively speaking (half dmg but half hp). They just don't fit in so well with the 'optimal' playstyle of boxing your own group. Charming obviously makes boxing much more complicated. They're pretty crappy as a buff/nuke bot, and people tend not to bother with any content that needs crowdcontrol (though low mob mr and not being scared to blow a full tank of mana on every fight makes for some pretty great crowd control potential). As it stands, I think the class would need some pretty fundamental changes to be highly desirable in a box-heavy world (well, that or opening up some 6-man limited content that's complicated enough to make boxing it highly challenging).
I would actually like to give all the classes a giant re-tuning, but considering the time it would take, I'm not sure I'll ever actually get to it.
Also, NL is still running btw, if you didn't know. It crashes on occasion, and I don't usually notice until someone pokes me on discord, so it's down sometimes. I keep meaning to merge the servers but haven't devoted the time to it yet.
Just as a note on chanters, I realize that they're in a really weird spot on this server, but compared to live, the guaranteed duration charm and reduction in mob MR are huge buffs, and charmed-mob damage is the same relatively speaking (half dmg but half hp). They just don't fit in so well with the 'optimal' playstyle of boxing your own group. Charming obviously makes boxing much more complicated. They're pretty crappy as a buff/nuke bot, and people tend not to bother with any content that needs crowdcontrol (though low mob mr and not being scared to blow a full tank of mana on every fight makes for some pretty great crowd control potential). As it stands, I think the class would need some pretty fundamental changes to be highly desirable in a box-heavy world (well, that or opening up some 6-man limited content that's complicated enough to make boxing it highly challenging).
I would actually like to give all the classes a giant re-tuning, but considering the time it would take, I'm not sure I'll ever actually get to it.
Also, NL is still running btw, if you didn't know. It crashes on occasion, and I don't usually notice until someone pokes me on discord, so it's down sometimes. I keep meaning to merge the servers but haven't devoted the time to it yet.
MazeEq
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Damage of charmed mobs actually was scaled off the charisma and Mana of the Enchanter casting the charm, Sorta like the pets were scaled by Mana for casters and 1/2 mana 1/2 hp for hybrids.
Secrets did that.
Well, except when we forgot to revert to normal stats after charm wore off, which lead to everyone charming, fading, and charming again to have a monsterpet.
Secrets did that.
Well, except when we forgot to revert to normal stats after charm wore off, which lead to everyone charming, fading, and charming again to have a monsterpet.
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