Weight Loss Thread

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Rydil_sl said:
I signed up for the 90 day challenge at my gym. My measurements this morning are: 179 pounds and 14.7% body fat. I was in shock at all the people that signed up for this. Has anyone ever done this type of challenge before? If so what type of numbers win?


Also, going along with Spiok's squat question. Is doing body weight squats better then going to a squat machine and slowly adding weight? Or is doing both the way to go, along with other leg machines? I haven't tried adding any weight to my squats yet (had ACL Surgery 10 weeks ago). But I currently don't have any pain doing BW squats and I did do some deadlifts this morning and was able to get up to 135 without any pain. My PT told me to take it easy and slowly add weight. So any advice on which way to build strength/lose fat with squats is appreciated.
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By squat machine do you mean the Smith Machine? If so I would avoid that and just do BW squats, you can throw small weights in your hands (dumbbells) and work on that. Smith Machine forces you into a weird position and I've always found it terrible for squats.
 
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Rydil_sl said:
I signed up for the 90 day challenge at my gym. My measurements this morning are: 179 pounds and 14.7% body fat. I was in shock at all the people that signed up for this. Has anyone ever done this type of challenge before? If so what type of numbers win?


Also, going along with Spiok's squat question. Is doing body weight squats better then going to a squat machine and slowly adding weight? Or is doing both the way to go, along with other leg machines? I haven't tried adding any weight to my squats yet (had ACL Surgery 10 weeks ago). But I currently don't have any pain doing BW squats and I did do some deadlifts this morning and was able to get up to 135 without any pain. My PT told me to take it easy and slowly add weight. So any advice on which way to build strength/lose fat with squats is appreciated.
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It depends on the type of challenge it is. If it's weight lost or inches lost, you stand no chance. Basically the bigget person has the best shot, which is kind of bullshit. If it's a "transformation" type of challenge, guys that are bodybuilders and are just finishing up a bulk will win.

As far as squats go, if you can't squat the bar I recommend you doing goblet squats over smith machine.
 
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I always love hearing weight loss advice from severely overweight people. Some advice a woman I know (at least 50lbs overweight) is giving to a male friend about how to lose weight:

This is probably something you already know, but you should perform aerobic exercise before and after doing strength training. Running is awesome...I love it, and it's easy to do. I'd suggest avoiding using a treadmill unless you're walking. Your gait is very important when running, and a treadmill makes you alter your gait naturally because you're afraid of falling off. Running on a track or outdoors is best. Your gait being altered could mean a really weird injury in your knees, feet, etc. If that's not possible for you, then I'd suggest a stationary bike.

Swimming would also be an awesome cool-down. I'm pretty unfamiliar with the best methods, because when I've swum for exercise purposes I've just done laps and used the butterfly.
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Isn't it funny how obese people suddenly become alarmingly concerned with safety and health when it's time to exercise and how much fun they have when they work out?
 
lindz

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I'm not a big person.
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Losing weight isn't a huge priority of mine with eating and exercise. It is more for toning and being healthier.
 
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lindz_sl said:
I'm not a big person.
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Losing weight isn't a huge priority of mine with eating and exercise. It is more for toning and being healthier.
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If you are looking to get stronger and put on muscle, then the advice given to men in the same position applies to you too. I recommend picking up Starting Strength, reading the book and doing the program. There are lots of good lifting programs out there, and I am sure people in this thread would be happy to recommend them to you.
 
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Say that word one more time and I'm going to lose my shit.
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Denaut_sl said:
If you are looking to get stronger and put on muscle, then the advice given to men in the same position applies to you too. I recommend picking up Starting Strength, reading the book and doing the program. There are lots of good lifting programs out there, and I am sure people in this thread would be happy to recommend them to you.
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Yeah I use the wrong terms, I know. Sorry. :\ But my point is still the same. I hover around 120lbs but don't exercise enough so I've got flub I'd like to get rid of and add a bit of muscle. Strength training doesn't really interest as much as just regular exercise I can sustain at home given I have the 3 little ones.

But thank you for the advice. I may check it out just for knowledge's sake.
 
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lindz_sl said:
Yeah I use the wrong terms, I know. Sorry. :\ But my point is still the same. I hover around 120lbs but don't exercise enough so I've got flub I'd like to get rid of and add a bit of muscle. Strength training doesn't really interest as much as just regular exercise I can sustain at home given I have the 3 little ones.

But thank you for the advice. I may check it out just for knowledge's sake.
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Personally, if you are time constrained for exercise and the goal is to lose weight, cardio>>strength training, especially for women. P90X and all the other fad workouts aren't going to be much more effective at melting a muffin top than good 'ol cardio. Why not buy yourself a decent elliptical w/ integrated strength training and set it up near a TV and/or in an area where you can supervise the kids. If you have the dedication to do P90X at home, you shouldn't worry too much about your elliptical becoming a clothes hanger.

Edit: Sorry, just noticed in a previous post that you were looking to get toned/healthier, not lose weight. When you mentioned "flub" I assumed weight loss was your goal. Still, for a woman, the resistance settings on a good elliptical provide good muscle toning.
 
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About a decade ago when I did regular exercise at a gym they had one of those Cross Country Ski Machines, I loved it. I hate Cardio, I hate the bike, I don't mind running but hate it on a treadmill. I don't run anymore as its murder on my knees and Canadian Winters can be horrible. Anyway I can not find a Cross Country machine anywhere. I guess Nordic Track when bankrupt and a new company bought the name and is putting out really poor quality machines. I Have googled and made some calls but I can not find a high quality cross country ski machines. It was one of the few machines that I actually could stick with and not get bored. I really dislike the motion of ellipticals which seem to be all the rage.

What happened to cross country ski machines? why does no one make them anymore? Does anyone have know of an alternate MFG or retail outlet that could sell me a good quality one?
 
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Frenzied Wombat_sl said:
Personally, if you are time constrained for exercise and the goal is to lose weight, cardio>>strength training, especially for women. P90X and all the other fad workouts aren't going to be much more effective at melting a muffin top than good 'ol cardio. Why not buy yourself a decent elliptical w/ integrated strength training and set it up near a TV and/or in an area where you can supervise the kids. If you have the dedication to do P90X at home, you shouldn't worry too much about your elliptical becoming a clothes hanger.

Edit: Sorry, just noticed in a previous post that you were looking to get toned/healthier, not lose weight. When you mentioned "flub" I assumed weight loss was your goal. Still, for a woman, the resistance settings on a good elliptical provide good muscle toning.
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Good ones are like $2k yeah? Probably more than I'm looking to spend right now.

Isthisthe type thing you are talking about?
 
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Frenzied Wombat_sl said:
Personally, if you are time constrained for exercise andthe goal is to lose weight, cardio>>strength training, especially for women. P90X and all the other fad workouts aren't going to be much more effective at melting a muffin top than good 'ol cardio. Why not buy yourself a decent elliptical w/ integrated strength training and set it up near a TV and/or in an area where you can supervise the kids. If you have the dedication to do P90X at home, you shouldn't worry too much about your elliptical becoming a clothes hanger.

Edit: Sorry, just noticed in a previous post that you were looking to get toned/healthier, not lose weight. When you mentioned "flub" I assumed weight loss was your goal.Still, for a woman, the resistance settings on a good elliptical provide good muscle toning.
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The fuck are you talking about? That's some strong broscience.
 
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Nester, you said Canadian winters, why not go outsode and cross country ski? Alot more fun than the machine. I totaly understand the lack of time to exercise outside now that i have a family it is much more convenient to just treadmil or lift at home though. For lindz would suggest light weight curcuit training, a couple of 8 exercise sets can be done in like 15-20 min amd gets your muscles toned while boosting the metabolism and burning fat. If your doing it at home maybe with kettle bells or dumbells.
 
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What in the Jesus living fuck is 'muscle toning' that keeps getting repeated here?

Lift weights, lift heavy, eat clean, men AND women.
 
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It's the word women use for strength training so as to avoid the mental imagery of an overly muscled female. They want to be strong, not look strong.

Some people might actually say toning is more reps instead of more weight, but I think that's bullshit.
 
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It's because women think that if they lift weights they will look like hulk. The truth is most don't eat enough or have enough testosterone for that to happen naturally.

In summation, women are idiots.
 
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Noodleface_sl said:
It's because women think that if they lift weights they will look like hulk. The truth is most don't eat enough or have enough testosterone for that to happen naturally.

In summation, women are idiots.
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I love you too Noodle.

We want definition without losing a soft feminine look. I understand people use different terms to appeal to women because the idea of gaining bulk is something most want to avoid. Every trainer I have ever spoken with has used those words with me, what can I say. I don't really care about the terminology, I just know what I want to achieve and am looking for ways to achieve it.

Currently eating a healthier diet and doing an at home cross training program. As I have previously said - I'm busy, I have kids and I want to workout with my husband so finding something that doesn't take up too much time and lets us work out at home is what we need. If it is sustainable and helps keep my family healthier, I'm totally happy with it even if it isn't perfect.
 
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definition = muscle = lifting heavy weights. All of the most "toned" women I know look that way because they lift weights, either barbell or dumbbells. I suppose you can get a certain amount of definition by doing aerobic/body weight stuff, but that would also require a very, very good diet in order to melt the body fat away and reveal the small amount of muscle definition underneath.

You could see fantastic results with a small set of dumbbells and a 3-day a week routine, any number of which can be found online and are doable at home without any additional equipment. I think something like that is far better than any prepackaged program like P90x, etc.

*Edit* Also, as has been said numerous times in this thread by many people, diet is by far the most important ingredient in getting that muscle definition. This is especially true when you want to get nice abs. I'm curious what you (Lindz) mean when you say "a healthier diet", because what a lot of people think of as "healthy" is often far from it.
 
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