Weight Loss Thread

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Eidal

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Itlan_sl said:
Just strap up dude. You're going to hurt yourself because you perceive others are judging you? Are you fucking kidding me? And yes, a mixed grip puts you at a much higher risk for injury than a double overhand. It also creates imbalances. Deadlift isn't a forearm exercise, do fucking farmer's walks if you want to at the end to make up for it.
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It's not the perception of others, its the perception I have that people are using equipment to move weight that they aren't ready for yet. All my reading has indicated that belts aren't really safety gear and shouldn't be treated as such. If I can hold off on using equipment until things slow down, wouldn't that feel better on the backend? For example, 6 months from now I'll be dreading 365+ squats and maybe then a belt will seem far more appealing.

I wasn't aware that mixed grip could be dangerous; a cursory google search referenced bicep tears? I'll have to look into this more -- I'm already planning a deload on all my lifts anyway so maybe I'll return to hook grip and avoid mixed. Thanks for the heads up man.
 
Itlan

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Mixed grip puts your tendon at a very serious risk for injury. It can tear, like:

Biceps Tendon Tear -- Deadlift - YouTube

Hook grip? I guess you don't value your thumbs.

And a belt is absolutely safety gear. Ever see a 180 pound dude squatting 500 pounds? If he didn't have something to brace his core again, he'd literally shit out his intestines.

Straps aren't necessarily a safety thing, but they absolutely can be. I don't know about you, but my weakest point in a deadlift is off the floor because of a lack of grip strength. My back, glutes, hamstrings, hips, etc. can handle the load, but my forearms simply cannot (I also sweat like a fucking bitch, so add that to the equation). I'm not going to deadlift 285 when I can be pulling 315 for reps with straps alone. Do my forearms feel less fatigued? Yeah, but my ass is absolutely on fire. I'm focusing on the major muscles, not my cursed small ass wrists and hands.
 
Eidal

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Interesting perspective -- I've heard people argue both sides of the belt thing. I'm definitely not even remotely close to a 2.7x bw squat so I think your example is a bit off... It'd be a 180 pound dood squatting 270 belt-less for my example.

And I suspect chalk would help with the grip issue.
 
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I do my 4x25 squats at about 75% max charge, was just 2 plates.
Not really crossfit but similar, its for firefit, firefighter challenges doing a parcour of about 1minute 45 seconds, pedal to the metal all out. Cross the finish line and pass out. Fun stuff. I wasnt a supporter of splitting workouts for different body parts. Am trying this approach for the spring events. My previous training i just did the entire body all the time. Really slim gains. Hopefully this push the bar. The other big benefit is i can cut down the work out time. 1 hour at the gym compaired to 2 hours+ sessions
 
Itlan

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Eidal_sl said:
Interesting perspective -- I've heard people argue both sides of the belt thing. I'm definitely not even remotely close to a 2.7x bw squat so I think your example is a bit off... It'd be a 180 pound dood squatting 270 belt-less for my example.

And I suspect chalk would help with the grip issue.
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It would, but my gym doesn't allow chalk and I have a very, very special deal ($25 a month instead of $50) so I'm not trying to piss anyone off. Straps it is for me man.
 
Eidal

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In my gym, the fat people mess around on the cardio equipment. Staring at the TV, sweaty, walking at a 3mph pace. People with nice bodies pick up heavy things.
 
McCheese

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People who pick up the heaviest things are fat. Strong as fuck with a boatload of muscle underneath, but fat.
 
Fifey

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I've been on a three week binge drinking/eating vacation and I'm not happy with the effects. Afraid to weigh myself but I'd guess I'm up 5-7lbs, top abs are completely hidden now. Guess it's time to actually watch what I eat for a bit.
 
Ossoi

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How come every time I visit the gym, you weightlifters are mostly fat.
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A lot of people I know don't care about being lean, just being "big" and being strong.

My best friend has been on a cut for a fortnight and he's already whining about his muscles getting smaller.
 
Cad

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I think a lot of you guys view weight lifting as an MMO, get to the next level, lift heavier things... lets face it, most of us are desk jockeys and amateur at best athletes. We work out for aesthetics. And unless you are a fucking homo, girls do not like big bulky guys. Get lean, get a decent amount of muscle. Stop acting like your powerlifting impresses anybody.
 
Khane

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Cad_sl said:
I think a lot of you guys view weight lifting as an MMO, get to the next level, lift heavier things... lets face it, most of us are desk jockeys and amateur at best athletes. We work out for aesthetics. And unless you are a fucking homo, girls do not like big bulky guys. Get lean, get a decent amount of muscle. Stop acting like your powerlifting impresses anybody.
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Women definitely hate guys who can lift big heavy things. As evidenced by how hard it is for professional athletes to get laid. Getting to the point where you can bench press 250 or squat 315 will not make you look like a mongoloid. You will look perfectly normal and healthy.
 
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Khane_sl said:
Women definitely hate guys who can lift big heavy things. As evidenced by how hard it is for professional athletes to get laid. Getting to the point where you can bench press 250 or squat 315 will not make you look like a mongoloid. You will look perfectly normal and healthy.
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Professional athletes get laid because they are rich famous professional athletes, those women don't care how much they can lift.

I could max bench in the 225 range I suspect, I can do 185 for reps on a normal workout. My squats are in the low 200's now, but I'm weak on squat. Something I never worked on much.

But so what? How does getting more weight on those make me look better? Or perform better athletically? I do plyo and speed training to perform better athletically. I lift to add muscle to look better.
 
Khane

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Cad_sl said:
Professional athletes get laid because they are rich famous professional athletes, those women don't care how much they can lift.

I could max bench in the 225 range I suspect, I can do 185 for reps on a normal workout. My squats are in the low 200's now, but I'm weak on squat. Something I never worked on much.

But so what? How does getting more weight on those make me look better? Or perform better athletically? I do plyo and speed training to perform better athletically. I lift to add muscle to look better.
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This entire post is a troll right?
 
Fifey

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Athletes are usually pretty well balanced since they need speed along with the muscle. I get what cads saying, he's just arguing about it wrong.
 
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