Weight Loss Thread

mkopec_sl said:

Shit, at my ultimate I was doing 1200-1300 calories before keto. Some days I would go by with 1000. I would just eat lunch. And I might not be as big as Brahma, but still I was 260-270?

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What the fuck. I eat 1000 calories per meal @ 206 lol. Still steadily losing weight too, dropped 16 pounds rather quickly (month) and now losing about a pound a week.

Homework time! Because honestly as much as I enjoy doing other people's research for them, it reeeeally behooves you to do it yourself so you get into the habit to do it instead of asking "How do I google how many calories are in various weights of specific food items?" I mean I'm positive myself and others on the forum could easily do it for you. But that's counterproductive for you developing good habits in figuring out what your intake is. You want to skip the scale; that's fine. But you -need- to know and understand what certain basic measurements look like for various common food types that you eat, so you can better "ballpark" what your intake is. As it is, and I can only speak for myself, your intake could be anywhere from 2500-3500 calories as a conservative estimate. And if you aren't losing weight given your overall size on that intake, either you are making some small errors in judgement when it comes to portion size or you have some incredibly rare medical condition. It may be worthwhile to talk to your physician and ask to be recommended to a nutritional specialist that is also a doctor and not just some retarded vegan broad who just graduated college.

Look up what pictures of 1 oz of cheese (go generic, it's going to be 80-110 calories) looks like. Look up what a 12oz steak looks like compared to one of your diet root beer bottles. Look up "drumstick" in google images. Realize that a tortilla is basically just carbohydrates (just google "flour tortilla nutrition")

The only thing "wrong" with diet soda (aside from potential theoretical aspertame side-effects) is that it generally tastes like shit hah.

But yeah. If you -just- ate three hardboiled whole eggs and 4 strawberries, that's like 250 calories (or so.) and you rightfully should be hungry after that, especially at your size. That's a tiny ass breakfast even for me (I average around 450-500 cals, but I'm also -never- trying to be in ketosis or aiming at "low carb" style intake.

Itlan_sl said:

What the fuck. I eat 1000 calories per meal @ 206 lol. Still steadily losing weight too, dropped 16 pounds rather quickly (month) and now losing about a pound a week.

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mkopec is also very sedentary. It puts his rates into a much better framework if you take that into consideration. He doesn't lift or exercise on the regular (or maybe he does! My apologies if you changed recently mkopec) and his numbers directly reflect that. Even in full on post-fog ketosis, you would feel week as shit trying to be even moderately active at 1300 calories in a day and it would be a major detriment to your lifestyle. But completely sedentary? Most likely nowhere near as noticeable.

Khane_sl said:

So you'd rather skip meals than get a food scale? You're starting to worry too much about it and instead of taking a reasonable approach you're doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Counting the carbs and sugars should be your main focus on Atkins because that's what's going to keep you in ketosis for the first 2 phases (which is the entire point) but you cannot count carbs and sugars if you don't know what you're even eating (more specifically how much of it). And knowing how many calories are in what you eat is important from an ongoing lifestyle perspective.

And if you ate just 5 wings last night then yea, that's closer to 400-500 calories, so no wonder you were starving. My family just always called the legs in the KFC bucket "drumsticks" so that's what I call them.

It's gonna be really hard for you to get to where you want to be if you don't cook for yourself man. That's kind of a must. You gotta start cooking for yourself instead of buying all this bagged shit and going to the cafeteria at lunch.

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At the gym, I see people doing exercises like decline flys, dips and fireman carries, when there chest looks like that of a chicken, and their legs like tooth picks. What do you think you are going to get out of that? Go hit your benches and squats. Build a base 1st to work off of

Same for me. I really don't need a scale at this point because my portions are so damn large. I can easily cut shit down without a scale. When I hit the point where I need to watch everything I eat, I will snag a scale. Today will be steak. I wont eat the whole steak. Just cut/cook half/third that steak. No scale needed really.

I really had no idea my portions were super huge. Felt normal. I will also cut out the snacks.

Again, what is wrong with diet soda?

BrotherWu_sl said:

As I said, he might have to adjust it up or down based on activity level and weight. Age too. That goes for all the macros. I didn't mention it but I assume that if he is lifting he's probably doing pre and post-workout supplements, which can add a few hundred calories. At 291 and lifting a few times per week, 2000 calories with a couple of cheats that probably take him up to 3000 calories a couple of days will not kill him. Being 291 will kill him.

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Keep in mind the dude can bench 405 lbs.

Brahma_sl said:

At the gym, I see people doing exercises like decline flys, dips and fireman carries, when there chest looks like that of a chicken, and their legs like tooth picks. What do you think you are going to get out of that? Go hit your benches and squats. Build a base 1st to work off of

Same for me. I really don't need a scale at this point because my portions are so damn large. I can easily cut shit down without a scale. When I hit the point where I need to watch everything I eat, I will snag a scale. Today will be steak. I wont eat the whole steak. Just cut/cook half/third that steak. No scale needed really.

I really had no idea my portions were super huge. Felt normal. I will also cut out the snacks.

Again, what is wrong with diet soda?

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From purely a weight loss standpoint not much. But from a health standpoint it can lead to things like kidney stones and such. There are lot of other health issues, unrelated to weight loss, that the jury is still out on as well. And it really does taste like shit like Rezz said.

And Brahma... you had no idea your portions were super huge because you don't have a food scale. Get a goddamn food scale.

Seriously... why are you so against a damn food scale? It's so goddamn easy to weigh your food, especially if all you're cooking is a steak. Weight the plate, re-zero the scale, put the steak on the plate. Done.

Khane_sl said:

From purely a weight loss standpoint not much. But from a health standpoint it can lead to things like kidney stones and such. There are lot of other health issues, unrelated to weight loss, that the jury is still out on as well. And it really does taste like shit like Rezz said.

And Brahma... you had no idea your portions were super huge because you don't have a food scale. Get a goddamn food scale.

Seriously... why are you so against a damn food scale? It's so goddamn easy to weigh your food, especially if all you're cooking is a steak. Weight the plate, re-zero the scale, put the steak on the plate. Done.

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Fuckit...fine. Ordered one.

Amazon.com: Etekcity 11lb/5kg Digital Multifunction Stainless Steel Kitchen Food Scale: Kitchen Dining

Brahma's gonna be 240 in a month now that he's got a scale.

I personally don't own a food scale, but I can measure just about every standard measurement within 5% or so from an eyeball perspective after spending over a decade working in and around kitchens. If you don't have that background? A food scale is only going to work out in your favor. Especially in any sort of weight loss goal aspect. I would definitely stress, again, that you not change your normal "diet" eating habits that you are reporting aren't working while using the scale to figure out what you are actually consuming.

Weigh and catalog the food weight each day, and then the following morning/lunch (whenever you have free time) figure out how many calories that is using various resources. Mark it down on a notepad or something, and keep the running catalog for a week. Then when that is done, you'll have an accurate view of what you are consuming each day. I'd recommend either just typing "<item name> calories" into google, or just going to to the FDA's website atFoods Listand type in (as accurately as you can measure and figure out. Eating out fubars a lot of this stuff for people who aren't professional culinary folks) the item name and weight and see what it spits out.

I have a scale but I don't use it religiously. I'm not really giving a fuck how many grams of broccoli I eat. I measure stuff like nuts, whatever, snack/breakfast foods. I also measure cooked meat sometimes, just so I have a better idea of what it looks like at what weight. My big problem before was portion sizes. I do see the value in being a scale Nazi though.

And yeah, what's the real harm in diet soda? For sure water is healthier than *, but my understanding was that science had disproven all of that Tumblr "diet soda made me fat" shit.

Brahma_sl said:

Fuckit...fine. Ordered one.

Amazon.com: Etekcity 11lb/5kg Digital Multifunction Stainless Steel Kitchen Food Scale: Kitchen Dining

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It helps soooo much dude. It's just like myfitnesspal logging, once you've done it for a minute it all becomes quick and painless, especially when you're eating the same 4-5 meals every week.

chaos_sl said:

And yeah, what's the real harm in diet soda? For sure water is healthier than *, but my understanding was that science had disproven all of that Tumblr "diet soda made me fat" shit.

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I thought some studies had found that artificial sweeteners can still fuck with your body's insulin response or blood sugar spikes or something like that? That they can actually stimulate appetite or cravings?

In any case, I think it's kind of part of the whole self control thing. You know who drinks the most diet soda? Fat people! Because they constantly need to be consuming extremely flavorful, salty, sweet, savory foods. They've trained their taste buds and psychology to crave that kind of shit. Breaking those kinds of habits, in my opinion, is a big part of maintaining a healthier diet and lifestyle. For me it's pretty easy to stay away from that shit, as I find some artificial sweeteners upset my stomach and/or give me the shits.