I disagree - the pre-credit scene is all straight foreshadowing, then you get the amazing intro music, then a scene which sets up the entire premise: it's the future but it's a worn, gritty future instead of Star Trek. Spike is practicing martial arts, Jet is being the 'father', they're shown as bounty hunters and then the special beef bowl (without the beef) establishes them as down on their luck. And it goes from there, including the obligatory bittersweet ending.Love Cowboy Bebop (my favourite show of all time) but i don't think the 1st episode is great imo.
It's your loss, not mine.Get the fuck out of here weeaboo, that doesn't come close to qualifying.
Just had to say, finished the pilot / first two episodes now and LOVED it. It is a carousel of early 90s to current TV stars. It fits, to me, in that Twin Peaks wheelhouse. The wife and I kept trying to think of anything recent that comes close and really couldn't. American Horror Story maybe? Not from a content perspective but a certain tone that exists within the story or universe.My entry will be... Wild Palms (am anticipation mini-serie from the '90s produced by Oliver Stone and with episodes directed by Kathryn Bigelow) because there is zero exposition, so you dive head first into a complex situation and you end up making diagrams to understand wtf just happened.
I think you misunderstood that part of the conversation. Someone asked the thread's question somewhat inversely, that is, what show had the worst 1st episode but turned out to be a great show? Thats where I first brought up Spartacus...and then promptly got called a big ole gay.Cant believe the votes for spartacus, even shows like Banshee has 10x better pilots
Bullshit. The first season drug a little but the first episode was amazing. It set up the entire premise and made you want more. I watched it on a whim and immediately watched the other seven right away.The episode of Breaking Bad isn't that great.
You are correct on the inverse to the OP's question. I think you can extend Spartacus to the first 3-5 episodes depending on opinions.I think you misunderstood that part of the conversation. Someone asked the thread's question somewhat inversely, that is, what show had the worst 1st episode but turned out to be a great show? Thats where I first brought up Spartacus...and then promptly got called a big ole gay.
For me it was once they did away with the "comic book" like effects. The cartoony looking blood, 300'esque environments, and overuse of slo-motion detracted from the story. Considering (I assume) that the whole first season was filmed at once, I'd be curious as to what made them change the style of the show mid season.You are correct on the inverse to the OP's question. I think you can extend Spartacus to the first 3-5 episodes depending on opinions.
Agree 100% about Spartacus. I was laughing during the first episode but by the last episode, I was completely invested. I don't think a show has ever turned me around as much as that one did.For me it was once they did away with the "comic book" like effects. The cartoony looking blood, 300'esque environments, and overuse of slo-motion detracted from the story. Considering (I assume) that the whole first season was filmed at once, I'd be curious as to what made them change the style of the show mid season.
yeah. honestly it was the best episode of the series.I disagree - the pre-credit scene is all straight foreshadowing, then you get the amazing intro music, then a scene which sets up the entire premise: it's the future but it's a worn, gritty future instead of Star Trek. Spike is practicing martial arts, Jet is being the 'father', they're shown as bounty hunters and then the special beef bowl (without the beef) establishes them as down on their luck. And it goes from there, including the obligatory bittersweet ending.
It's pretty much a perfect first episode.
It's your loss, not mine.
then it fulfilled its purpose surely?First episode of Heroes maybe wasn't great on it's own, but it did one of the best jobs ever of setting up a series so that I wasdefinitelygoing to watch more. They did a good of setting up the show as a must-watch, especially the end of the episode with Hiro teleporting to Times Square.