Don't be jealous bro. I would rather have a Z06 again (had a C5 and C6) but I don't have the room for a DD and a sports car, so I had to compromise. I'm kind of hoping my wife likes the M6 better than the M5 and wants to keep it for herself so I can have a toy again.
From a performance and dynamics standpoint, you are correct; Honda and Toyota don't make a RWD or sporty car like BMW does. However,mostof the people who buy a low end BMW are only buying it for the badge and now the fact that it's RWD. With that in mind, the Japanese do a better job of making a: economic, safe, quick, reliable, affordable car. That's all a 328i is supposed to be and someone who buys that is better off with an Accord V6, for instance.
WRU Supra
~72K in today dollars it looks like. My father owned 2 MK IIIs before going domestic (in the station wagon/minivan sense), I loved those cars though even though the MK III was a bit chunky. Never got old enough before the IV was discontinued in the US to even approach a MK IV and by the time I could afford one... well let's just say I'm not paying new Corvette prices for a 20 year old car.
Nah, I love Estoril blue too, this is Scuba blue, which isn't "bad" I'd prefer estoril if I didn't have to pay 3,000 for it. I prefer scuba over nogaro/sprint/sepang/moonlight/utopia. I think Scuba is as close to a "true" blue that they have. Estoril is a bit more red-shifted towards purple, and sepang is definitely a lot lighter.
Ain't that the truth. Mitsubishi is basically done making cars, so no more Evo. Supra is long since dead (though I see one every 6 months or so on the road) and even the STi - while looking different - has had the same drive train since 2004 (in America). The BRZ/FRS looks the part and is actually fun to drive, but like you said Palum, it doesn't have any balls. I'd rather have a Golf GTi for the same money; much larger interior, great tech and sadly, a lot faster.WRU SupraOr hell, even S2000.
RE: Toyota, the FRS is averycapable sportscar, but it is an unfortunately 'pure' sportscar. It needs a TRD/STI versionbadly. 300+HP would be amazing in that platform. Basically the Miata problem (sans MS MX-5 years, I guess).
I guess all you're saying here is if you ignore all the stuff that makes the BMW better, then the Toyota or Honda is better.
I think his point is BMW just isn't any value unless you are actually in the luxury category which is beyond the 2/3/4 series. The interiors are no longer first rate (they've added a lot of faux and plastic items), the M series/package cars are just not far ahead (or worse, just marketing gimmicks) and the options packages which used to be 'exotic' are now standard on more and more cars making a justification for purchase that much harder. When you compare E92 M3 (gold standard IMO) to the competition when it came out to the new F80 vs competition... yea, other auto companies (not Toyota or Honda though on the performance side lulz) have done more in the last 5 years. It's not that BMWs are BAD cars, and indeed some of them are superb - but they are expensive to maintain and frankly unless you are going loaded 7 series type of a car, there are better options for performance or luxury for the money, even from MB, Porsche or Audi.
Plenty of people never change their oil, especially ones that change cars regularly. I used to know a guy that bought a new pickup every 2 years and never changed the oil because he knew he would get rid of it before it started having problems. He was kind of a dick but at least he's dead now.Make sure the prior owner changed the oil regularly
Someone on /r/justrolledintotheshop posted what happens if a Audi TT goes 84,000 miles without an oil change, the person who owned it had to be mentally handicapped or something (Album:Audi TT - Album on Imgur)
No, come on man. What I'm saying is: the BMW brand is what sells for the entry and mid level cars, not the quality of the cars themselves. A 328i is a fucking expensive car compared to a V6 Honda Accord and not better. The brand has been diluted with mass-market crap and until you get into the 5-6-7 and M cars, they aren't worth it. Cheap plastics. Lot's of NVH. Insulting prices. Low value. Yet, people will flock to that 328 because it says BMW on the badge.
Be glad you don't have estoril. That's what I've got, and there's something with either the paint or clear-coat that causes it to pick up swirls and scratches like crazy. Either that, or the "crystal" they put in the paint simply shows defects easier. After I noticed that blowing on the car would induce swirls, I checked out the audi forums and it seems like it's a common issue. So be happy you didn't get Estoril.
Exactly. No "car enthusiast" would. There's some shithead at my job who parks their E92 328 sedan in two spots like they're driving a fucking Lamborghini.
People who do that seriously rustle my Jimmies, especially when parking is scarce. It just screams "key my fucking douche-mobile".
I'm not sure an A4 is any better than a 328, unless you just like the interior better. But thats pretty subjective.
Can't comment on an A4 specifically, but with the exception of the seats/steering the interior is pretty much the same as an S4. I guess in terms of "looks" it is subjective vis a vis a 328/335, but imho the quality of the materials and fit/finish isn't. The Audis use a high quality "softish" plastic throughout the cabin that deadens noise and is scratch resistant. The 328/335 uses a hard, rigid plastic throughout the cabin that pops and squeaks, even under light finger pressure. The audi just looks/feels "tighter" all around.
