What vehicle do you drive?

Cad · Mar 30, 2016

Burren_sl said:
Tracking is definitely a different animal. Consumables like tires, brakes, and clutches do add up on these cars. Better off with a Porsche or hell, an old Honda.

Yea but thats my point, there's no sense in having an exotic really unless you can track it, because otherwise it's a poser-mobile. Exotics are not the fastest cars, they're not the most practical, they're only the most expensive. So unless you're tracking it and making use of the engineering that goes into them, or just throwing your big-dick wallet on the table cruising around in a 458 trying to impress limp dick faggots with your ride, whats the point?

Answer: there is none

Get an S2000 and learn to drive.

Edit: And the new NSX is in the GT3 price range so it'd be kinda believable that that car would see the track someday... unlike the $400k street price 458.

Palum · Mar 30, 2016

Too bad the NSX is a pile of trash compared to the original. Everything I've read about it is like 'oh... yea it... well yea it is kind of the same name as the original all right! Boy oh boy nostalgia... I'd rather be driving anything else though.'

Porkchop · Mar 30, 2016

Marmac_sl said:
What do you guys think of the new Acura NSX? Worth the money? It's one sweet looking car but I think I'd still take the Nissan GTR over the NSX any day.

Looks like its worth the money, exterior looks nice. But good god that interior looks awful. Reminds me of a Camry. I second the GTR.

Burren · Mar 30, 2016

Cad_sl said:
Yea but thats my point, there's no sense in having an exotic really unless you can track it, because otherwise it's a poser-mobile. Exotics are not the fastest cars, they're not the most practical, they're only the most expensive. So unless you're tracking it and making use of the engineering that goes into them, or just throwing your big-dick wallet on the table cruising around in a 458 trying to impress limp dick faggots with your ride, whats the point?

Answer: there is none

Get an S2000 and learn to drive.

Edit: And the new NSX is in the GT3 price range so it'd be kinda believable that that car would see the track someday... unlike the $400k street price 458.

Partially valid, but mostly woefully ignorant.

Until you own or drive exotics, don't presume to know why people buy them or what they are like. For the people I know and associate with, it has nothing to do with being the fastest or the most practical. It's an occasion. It's an event. It's fun and not like driving a Mustang. Honestly, you just sound incredibly petty with comments like "...trying to impress limp dick faggots with your ride..."

Answer: You don't know.

The track is a different discussion all together. Yes, a Miata, S2000, E36 BMW, Honda, etc. are all better track cars for beginners. Consumables cost less and they are cheaper to run. But, guess what? Not everyone wants to do that. Once a month our Porsche club goes to the track (Thunder Hill, Big Willow, Laguna Seca; wherever we feel like for that month) and drive around for an entire day in our GT3s, GT3RSs, Cayman GT4s, and the occasional Boxter and Cayman S. Why? Because its fun and because we can. They are amazing track cars and the cost of consumables doesn't matter to some people.

For a nice perspective on this, check out Rennlist.com/forums and the 997 GT2/GT3 section.

Spouting off comments about posers and assholes makes you sound like a fool.

Soygen · Mar 30, 2016

That's actually what prevented me from buying a Ferarri. I didn't want Cad to think I was a poseur. That and about 200 grand.

Cad · Mar 30, 2016

Burren_sl said:
For a nice perspective on this, check out Rennlist.com/forums and the 997 GT2/GT3 section.

Spouting off comments about posers and assholes makes you sound like a fool.

I go to PCA events and have a 997.2 Turbo. I know.

Have driven and ridden in plenty of Gallardos, Aventadors, 458's, F430's, and even a 355 cab! They're "cool" in that they get a lot of attention but especially for driving around on the street I'd take my Turbo any day.

Burren · Mar 30, 2016

As an around-town car, I wouldn't argue that. Massive torque and AWD makes it a brute. But, it also sounds like a vacuum cleaner (stock) and doesn't have a whole lot of charisma (opinion) compared to naturally aspirated options.

I'll agree that there are posers out there. I'll agree that some people just want a "look at me" car. But, not the people I know and it really is all about the experience and the drama of a fun, rare car.

Fadaar · Mar 30, 2016

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I like my '15 Corvette, it's a good daily driver

Kiroy · Mar 30, 2016

My wife needed a new ride and was choosing between a new highlander and 4runner. Lucky for me one of our local places had a mag 4runner trd and I played the phone tag game with them for a couple days and got it for msrp. Win win. I'm very happy.

Palum · Mar 30, 2016

Are TRD versions hard to get or something? MSRP seems like not a great deal...

Siliconemelons · Mar 30, 2016

Palum_sl said:
Are TRD versions hard to get or something? MSRP seems like not a great deal...

It's Toyota, they don't deal- it's sticker and any Toyota promotions or incentives like OMG 500$ off! HUGE SALE! Plus highest of the "standard" brand destination and dealer fees- so in apple/toyota land MSRP is a baller deal...

Palum · Mar 30, 2016

xadion_sl said:
It's Toyota, they don't deal- it's sticker and any Toyota promotions or incentives like OMG 500$ off! HUGE SALE! Plus highest of the "standard" brand destination and dealer fees- so in apple/toyota land MSRP is a baller deal...

Odd, maybe you just have a dealer cartel near you?

Hekotat · Mar 31, 2016

Mr208_sl said:
- 4age 16v 7rib? What have you done to get the hp that high? Dyno chart?

I have a 3s in my 87 mr2. Your car makes me smile cause its one I have always wanted.

It's a 7AGE, here's the parts list for the engine.

16v 7AGE
TRD 272 cams 8.1mm
MRP Rods
Redtop pistons
AFM Delete
HKS valve springs
Head ported and polished
Intake runners polished
TRD rep header
Fujitsubo exhaust
Megasquirt ECU
TVIS Delete
NST pulleys
10.5 or 11.1 Compression ratio
TRD Headgasket

I should be in the 150-160 range per Billzilla's page and I'm now running a way bigger block and more stroke and way more compression. There's like no reason I should be so low.

Bill Sherwood's Modified 4AGE Page

Cad · Mar 31, 2016

Hekotat_sl said:
It's a 7AGE, here's the parts list for the engine.

16v 7AGE
TRD 272 cams 8.1mm
MRP Rods
Redtop pistons
AFM Delete
HKS valve springs
Head ported and polished
Intake runners polished
TRD rep header
Fujitsubo exhaust
Megasquirt ECU
TVIS Delete
NST pulleys
10.5 or 11.1 Compression ratio
TRD Headgasket

I should be in the 150-160 range per Billzilla's page and I'm now running a way bigger block and more stroke and way more compression. There's like no reason I should be so low.

Bill Sherwood's Modified 4AGE Page

Thats a lot of money to spend to make miata power.

Burren · Mar 31, 2016

Throw some independent throttle bodies on there too for good measure. Sounds wicked - for a 4 banger - and helps a bit with power. Not very cost effective, but you're at the end of the list on that motor.

Honestly, should have taken the Celica's 2ZZ-GE and modded that a little. Probably would have saved money. But, it wouldn't be original.

Soygen · Mar 31, 2016

What's the curb weight, Heko?

Hekotat · Mar 31, 2016

Burren_sl said:
Throw some independent throttle bodies on there too for good measure. Sounds wicked - for a 4 banger - and helps a bit with power. Not very cost effective, but you're at the end of the list on that motor.

Honestly, should have taken the Celica's 2ZZ-GE and modded that a little. Probably would have saved money. But, it wouldn't be original.

Yeah I was looking at a 9AGE, you take the 2zz crank and stuff it in my 7A block. Makes booko power. I think next will be a turbo. I didn't know the damn 9AGE existed until I had already orderd all the shit for the 7AGE.

Cad, yes, I was heartbroken at the power but I love the challenge of doing all this shit myself. Including the cost of the car I'm about 16k deep.

Here is the weight stats.

Toyota Corolla Levin / Sprinter Trueno (AE86)
Length 4,200 mm (165.5 in)
Width 1,630 mm (64.0 in)
Height 1,340 mm (52.6 in)
Curb weight 923-1,089 kg (2,035-2,400 lb)

Palum · Mar 31, 2016

Shoulda done a l337 2JZ-GTE swap bro. Or maybe a 7M-GTE that someone who already did a 2JZ swap was selling!

Burren · Mar 31, 2016

Haha. That might have been a crazy amount of power (well, too much for the chasis, let's be honest) but the 2j is a heavy mother fucker. I'd say, sticking to 4 cylinders for weight and balance; the Mitsu 4G would have been ideal.

Cad · Mar 31, 2016

F20C in miatas is getting to be the new thing... bet it would work great in your old corolla as well.

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