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which is odd because if I wasn't a good (decent) looking successful married man I would have zero probably fucking big fat uggos. a pussy is a pussy and fat chicks are giving (from what I hear)
Why don't Incels?
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which is odd because if I wasn't a good (decent) looking successful married man I would have zero probably fucking big fat uggos. a pussy is a pussy and fat chicks are giving (from what I hear)
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LOL this dude's face!
I was only recently introduced to the term "Incel" and only understood it was the portmanteau of Involuntarily Celibate. I came here to ask because you guys honestly are, in my opinion, the place I trust most to "get it right" with facts and not spin. This thread delivered, thank you. I did very briefly check out that board that Tyen mentioned and this was the first sticky post:
So my thinking is... if this rhetoric displayed here is a prototypical view of an incel... it seems that incels actually worship women instead of detest them. They want desperately to find a good lay, love, affection, but actively push out the idea in their head, right? So wouldn't that be "voluntarily celibate" ?
True, if you're a fat ugly neckbeard, yeah... you're gonna have a hard time finding someone unless you essentially dial your standards waaaay down; possibly to (dare I say it) Shelly levels. But I'd go out on a limb and say there's probably a fair majority of average looking dudes who have adopted this philosophy that are actually shooting themselves in the foot. If you're this stoic, walled off, paranoid, hateful etc, you're just pushing out anything meaningful right out of the gate.
Whilst I am who I am, and though I have no intention (anymore) of dating, fucking or being anything more than a friend to guys, I can assure you an inviting smile, an aura of confidence, a sense of humor, and pleasantness go a LONG way into attracting females. This post and I'd guess incels in general are probably consciously shedding *all* of those positive attributes around potentials. How pitiful.
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They are voluntarily celibate to be sure. They basically fixate on a certain type of person, don't know how to go about "courting" for lack of a better word, then rationalize the problem isn't with themselves, but the object of their lust. They try for a while (unsuccessfully), but eventually those feelings begin to manifest as frustration and then anger and you get little clubs like that on reddit or w/e.
You know what the best thing to happen to people with this mentality would be? To just be told the truth. When I was younger, one of the best things to ever happen to me was when I opened up about my feelings to a friend I had a crush on and she shot me down. Rather than just be polite and make up an excuse (which can sometimes make people think they have a chance/maybe it will be different later), she went out of her way to explain why she rejected me. Sure, it stung a bit, but not only did it make me reevaluate myself, but it also was effective in ensuring I wouldn't waste any more energy trying to pursue someone who wasn't interested and instead look elsewhere.
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Really, this is a rise of "modern" feminism and increased homosexuality. JBP states this overly bluntly and gets roasted for it, and gives zero fucks to explain it if you do not understand it... so I'll delve a little deeper.
icels are a response to the public and outward "cry" of feminism. "If only guys did X" or "men must act like Y" - us normies know this as, girls say they want a good man, but fuck all the bad boys while friend zoning the good picks till their egg drop timer is running out... you know, feckless cunts.
So, take being "that good guy" to extreme - they work out a bunch because the Jabba the hut purple hair slugs tell them they should, they get education and jobs, because that's what women want. Yet they "are interested in" the audience of femanatzis and closed lesbians - so they are constantly rejected, but - not as stated above, rejected in a useful way - but rejected by these loud and proud that can only reject them via lies stacked on their lies.
I have done what you said! Why do you reject me?
I act the way you say you want! Why do you reject me?
I am successful in the manner you said you deemed worthy! Why do you reject me?
- well, because females generally never SAY what they REALLY want - famcunts and their ilk are 99999% x WORSE at this - so it compounds and compounds the issue.
Monogamy and the nuclear family is the best overall method of successful relationships, fulfillment and overall contentment - yet our society - escalating starting with the gay movement, and slippery sloping all the way to the SJW and LGBQTFGRTYIJHGFDSASD movement - this includes almost all "progressive" movements - heck BLM has it LISTED as an objective. Not just the desire to have other fam structures "accepted" no, the DESTRUCTION of nuclear fam stucture...
Also, men are at fault for falling for the hot chick's that are done fucking everything that moves and finally wants to "settle down" in their 30's...or 40's -- stop, date with the objective of marriage - get married, have kids - raise the family together as a nuclear group.
And yes, track the trends back enough, track the "reasons" and it is... sex outside marriage acceptance. Salt me, barf me - but it is really the root ideology behind all the progressive steps toward a Rome-esqu destruction and fall. Re: camilia pagala (sp?) She talks about it well.
icels are a response to the public and outward "cry" of feminism. "If only guys did X" or "men must act like Y" - us normies know this as, girls say they want a good man, but fuck all the bad boys while friend zoning the good picks till their egg drop timer is running out... you know, feckless cunts.
So, take being "that good guy" to extreme - they work out a bunch because the Jabba the hut purple hair slugs tell them they should, they get education and jobs, because that's what women want. Yet they "are interested in" the audience of femanatzis and closed lesbians - so they are constantly rejected, but - not as stated above, rejected in a useful way - but rejected by these loud and proud that can only reject them via lies stacked on their lies.
I have done what you said! Why do you reject me?
I act the way you say you want! Why do you reject me?
I am successful in the manner you said you deemed worthy! Why do you reject me?
- well, because females generally never SAY what they REALLY want - famcunts and their ilk are 99999% x WORSE at this - so it compounds and compounds the issue.
Monogamy and the nuclear family is the best overall method of successful relationships, fulfillment and overall contentment - yet our society - escalating starting with the gay movement, and slippery sloping all the way to the SJW and LGBQTFGRTYIJHGFDSASD movement - this includes almost all "progressive" movements - heck BLM has it LISTED as an objective. Not just the desire to have other fam structures "accepted" no, the DESTRUCTION of nuclear fam stucture...
Also, men are at fault for falling for the hot chick's that are done fucking everything that moves and finally wants to "settle down" in their 30's...or 40's -- stop, date with the objective of marriage - get married, have kids - raise the family together as a nuclear group.
And yes, track the trends back enough, track the "reasons" and it is... sex outside marriage acceptance. Salt me, barf me - but it is really the root ideology behind all the progressive steps toward a Rome-esqu destruction and fall. Re: camilia pagala (sp?) She talks about it well.
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I have plenty of sex... so... I mean it is with my wife, so if that does not count... /shrug
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So what you are saying is that "if only these women did this" and "women should act like this" everything would be cool?
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Isn't that what women say constantly except reverse the gender?
Or are you just trying to marginalize people by relying of society's predilection to come to a women's side on all issues?
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Which second part? The part where Xadion just said the same stuff but with different words? Was it the part where he was talking about femcunts or whining about how since the inception of time man has always been kept down by womanly tricks and men are the TRUE victims of systemic and crushing oppresion?
Which second part exactly?