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Folanlron
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WINE has diffenetly gotten better over the past year, but sadly DirectX is still king for gaming. I know some companies have been trying to get away from it, but ease of access just makes it hard to pass up..
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Or, just, you know, don't fuck with the drive assignment?
This is "You're holding it wrong" all over again.
DirkDonkeyroot
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At least they told us how to avoid what will most certainly be a messed up update. Just put in a sd or usb drive and wait until it's been properly reviewed.
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This is for USB and SD cards. To be fair to MS, this isn't their fault. Fucking brain dead UEFI programmers that are different not only from company to company, but from revision to revision and version to version. Standards have been lost in UEFI and MS is pushing back.
sleevedraw
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It's improving, especially on simple one-monitor setups thanks to Proton and a newfound willingness by AMD to get their FOSS drivers up to snuff, but still not 100% there. If you have more complex needs like multiple monitors, want G-sync or FreeSync, etc., still a pain in the ass.
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ver_21
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Damnit. I could swear there was a Linus Tech Tips where the fat guy was claiming you can play pretty much anything on Linus
I can do with single monitor. Is Proton like a custom Wine?
It looks like people have gotten Division 2 to run on it.
sleevedraw
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Yes, basically it's Valve's fork of Wine with DXVK and other tools baked in. As far as GPU drivers go, if you have an Nvidia card, you want to use their binary/proprietary drivers; if you have AMD, you want to use the Mesa/open-source drivers.
Fat guy is correct that you can play pretty much anything on Linux...if you are willing to spend time figuring out how to make it work. Most things require abstraction layers like Wine or Proton, and even then, you sometimes need to fuck around with config settings in the terminal to get the software to run. Yes, I eventually got FFXIV running semi-stable in Wine after a couple days of banging my head against it, but I/most people just want to be able to press install, double-click, and go.
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Folanlron
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Oh you can, don't expect the latest DX features, prepare to be staring at config files for hours on end(some games are shiping with config settings for proton), it is not a simple install/update, and just play. I did look into it a bit last year, but it is just not there yet, and probably won't be for a long time too come..
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Large issue also is as far as I could tell when I looked into it, you basically are losing performance on everything you run on Linux, regardless of how it's run. I guess because optimization is only done on Windows so even games that kinda support Linux out of the box still run worse on Linux.
I do hope in a few years they get that shit sorted out as I wouldn't mind not having to use Windows, but for now it's a kinda meh option, unless you really hate windows.
Also wtf at that May update. I wonder when it's gonna force me to download it and fuck up everything because I have an USB drive plugged in. I have that shit on delay but seems after the delay is up I have to install whatever they want me to install, last time it kept installing shit for a few days in a row even. That said, 10 is way less annoying than I thought it'd be. I guess having the Pro version and turning off everything right away helped a fair bit. I don't even get the stupid Firewall is off warnings shit that popped everytime I booted my PC before. Next version is sure to be a jimmy rustler for several years too though the way they're going, so I'll probably stay on 10 as long as I can.
I do hope in a few years they get that shit sorted out as I wouldn't mind not having to use Windows, but for now it's a kinda meh option, unless you really hate windows.
Also wtf at that May update. I wonder when it's gonna force me to download it and fuck up everything because I have an USB drive plugged in. I have that shit on delay but seems after the delay is up I have to install whatever they want me to install, last time it kept installing shit for a few days in a row even. That said, 10 is way less annoying than I thought it'd be. I guess having the Pro version and turning off everything right away helped a fair bit. I don't even get the stupid Firewall is off warnings shit that popped everytime I booted my PC before. Next version is sure to be a jimmy rustler for several years too though the way they're going, so I'll probably stay on 10 as long as I can.
Folanlron
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If devs want games on multiple OS's they have too build the games to be that way, Wine/Photon does do some amazing work with what they have, but it is limited.(Factorio is a good example of this)
With new updates it seems that MS are working on more of "WSL"
But now the problem is, with Epic being cunts and buying up Kamu. Steam is now back into the stone age when it comes to this stuff. They were working with Kamu on a Linux solution for the EAC system, but now that's fucking gone, cause as Epic put it, "Not playing on Windows is like leaving Canada..." WTF?
With new updates it seems that MS are working on more of "WSL"
But now the problem is, with Epic being cunts and buying up Kamu. Steam is now back into the stone age when it comes to this stuff. They were working with Kamu on a Linux solution for the EAC system, but now that's fucking gone, cause as Epic put it, "Not playing on Windows is like leaving Canada..." WTF?
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sleevedraw
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That's not all; they're also creating a new open-source terminal that allows old-style Windows commands, PowerShell cmdlets, and Linux all in one.
MS makes the lion's share of their revenue with enterprise licensing, mostly Office and Azure. Their "personal computing" division is only about 30% of their operating income, and that division includes Xbox, so the amount of money they make off of selling OEM Windows these days is relatively small.
They have much more to gain by making Windows "free" or close to free (courting developer market share back from Apple, being able to mine everyone's data) than they do by focusing hard on Windows licensing like they did in the past. It wouldn't surprise me if they eventually try to make Windows full Linux in the intermediate to long term, say 15-20 years.
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ver_21
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Is their linux going to be a corrupted form of it, though--one that's always sending out user data?
Folanlron
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It will be interesting what they dig out of the data stream for the next WLS version, we don't know "what" they are doing with it we know some very basic info, that it is in the "pipe" and on the way.
Probably find out more info once the update hits "preview for enterprise" state..
Probably find out more info once the update hits "preview for enterprise" state..
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How it is resource wise? Chrome seems to be such a resource hog at times and I'm looking into getting another browser.
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Nola
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I watch twitch through the twitch app on my PC but I did notice my PC bog down when watching it on a browser.
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Twitch 5 (AlternativeTwitch) addon to Chrome is > *. The Windows Twitch ap lets ads through, so fuck that.