World of Warcraft: Current Year

We've had a few botters get banned. Then they got banned again..

I think I used honor buddy in like tbc or something (or similar) to get a PvP set. I got caught and they took all my PvP gear away

The way you white knight against botting, that was the last thing I expected to hear you say! lol Did a ban wave just hit again, or? As far as I can tell, some kind of anti-cheat third party tool is launched as soon as you open WoW now. It looks as if its integrated to the point that it cant be fished, so if I was botting now.. I know my account would be dead soon. Its just too ballsy or.. dumb, to bot at this point in time.

On a separate note, Im kind of curious how the non-forum goer's feel about the Discord union in the guild?

Also: Its hard to get practice in with the guild, nor do I like being the sole cause of a wipe in raids. Its even harder to get into a Pug without having the AOTC achievement. I found a lot of people didnt know about this, and its kind of old and it seems like it isnt updated - but it still works. Download "Fake Achievement" mod in twitch, then when in game type "/fa 11874 09/02/17" . Thatll give you the link to the completed achievement, saying you completed it on 9/2/17. (example date) From there, Shift+click on the link to send it to guild or /tell and you're in. The only way they would know otherwise is if they checked your armory, which who the fk cares, move on to the next one. Or at the end, after you kill the boss and get the chiev. Which, then who the fuck cares again.

Daidraco said:

The way you white knight against botting, that was the last thing I expected to hear you say! lol Did a ban wave just hit again, or? As far as I can tell, some kind of anti-cheat third party tool is launched as soon as you open WoW now. It looks as if its integrated to the point that it cant be fished, so if I was botting now.. I know my account would be dead soon. Its just too ballsy or.. dumb, to bot at this point in time.

On a separate note, Im kind of curious how the non-forum goer's feel about the Discord union in the guild?

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I can tell you that to me I wasn't really for the change, it's too.. big? We had our own private corner and now I'm worried about this roving mass of people fucking with us. And not sure why we needed it. Also it's setup so it works on the forum system for accts, but we have people that don't post here and don't want to, and the solution is I need to drag them into groups

As for botting, what can I say? I basically was a solo player in tbc and lazy. I don't white knight against botting because I think it's morally bankrupt or anything. I honestly don't care how or why people play the game. The problem I have, especially during ban waves is if a large portion of people are doing it a wave comes through and we lose a bunch of people to it. Additional to that I hate thinking that I may be handing out gear to people that will be banned, over members that won't. That's not a personal thing against previous botters, I mean in general I hate the thought that stuff may be wasted on anyone, but I can't control that.

I mean if I was really bothered I wouldn't let people raid with us, but I'm fairly cool about it all.

Noodleface said:

I can tell you that to me I wasn't really for the change, it's too.. big? We had our own private corner and now I'm worried about this roving mass of people fucking with us. And not sure why we needed it. Also it's setup so it works on the forum system for accts, but we have people that don't post here and don't want to, and the solution is I need to drag them into groups

As for botting, what can I say? I basically was a solo player in tbc and lazy. I don't white knight against botting because I think it's morally bankrupt or anything. I honestly don't care how or why people play the game. The problem I have, especially during ban waves is if a large portion of people are doing it a wave comes through and we lose a bunch of people to it. Additional to that I hate thinking that I may be handing out gear to people that will be banned, over members that won't. That's not a personal thing against previous botters, I mean in general I hate the thought that stuff may be wasted on anyone, but I can't control that.

I mean if I was really bothered I wouldn't let people raid with us, but I'm fairly cool about it all.

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I would argue that there is a higher chance of burn out simply because "Legion blows" or "KJ blows" , and therefore the person quitting and wasting gear, than people getting banned for botting. The difference is, when a ban wave goes out it's possible you'll lose a bunch of people all at the same time, rather than gradually, but in terms of net total amount of people lost? Just burn out and/or drama loses far more people.

For sure burnout and the fact that it's a forum guild.

Our first EN raid had 60 people. I coordinated two mass raid groups the first day. Now we're lucky if we get 20. I'd be honestly more concerned if tanks and healers were banned for botting because that'd be the biggest hit of anything

Noodleface said:

I'd be honestly more concerned if tanks and healers were banned for botting because that'd be the biggest hit of anything

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Why do you think I disappeared for 3 months?

Ftfyuuuuuck

Noodleface said:

Our first EN raid had 60 people. I coordinated two mass raid groups the first day. Now we're lucky if we get 20. I'd be honestly more concerned if tanks and healers were banned for botting because that'd be the biggest hit of anything

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You did, did you?!

I think "MMO burnout" is a reality nowadays. I don't think it's because of the current MMO business model, I think it's because of the casino effect. Back in the day (15-20 years ago) online gaming was somewhat confidential and you could count the major MMOs on a palm's hand. Regarding regions or internet access, you'd either be "this MMO guy" or "that MMO dude". There wasn't so much MMOs on the market, people would quite commit their lives on some title.

Nowadays (2017) there's a lot of MMO out there. Not being exhaustive, World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XIV, Elder Scrolls Online, Star Wars The Old Republic, Archeage, Black Desert Online are (in a comprehensive way) online games you could sink a lot of time on. I'm not even talking about the dead ones, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, Aion etc where people spend thousand hours trying to get ahold of the game's major bugs. And I'm talking about popular MMOs, there's a lot of them out there, any educated google search would probably get you "that" game you'd crave to play.

Right now it's easy to get burnt on any MMO even if you're catering to the access content. You're gonna get max level (through a self-deserving you're the only hero main quest most of the time) experience. You're gonna be able to enjoy the story, gameplay, group experience and lore. What happens next ? Most of the time you're gonna have to go through that content countless times for the sake of it (gear, etc).

In my opinion the "MMO burnout" nowadays is when you have so much content it's becoming a pain to just going through it. You want that skin ? Kill 20 people with a knife. You want that gearpiece ? Wait for the next timegated event. You crave that companion ? Please buy it so hurricane people could eat. i know I'm bolding the fact, but I strongly feel we shouldn't have RNG barriers to tell us what's gonna be our next gaming experience.

I think xzi said it in Gchat yesterday but despite all it's flaws, I do think legion is one of their best expansions. Tbc and wrath are obviously in a league of their own, but outside that I can't think any of the others are better. I've been subbed the full year too which usually doesn't happen.

We'll see how we all fail after the raid comes out and the last year is a content drought.

Still hate all of you that got banned and ruined my raid team

Cupcaek said:

Still hate all of you that got banned and ruined my raid team

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Some douche canoe crying about my lock getting 3-4 peices of heroic EN loot that no one else wanted is what ended it for me. I was in an angry place at the time though, was pretty fed up with the shit end of the stick locks were getting at the time, well except demo locks.

We've had a lot of douches, myself included

Where did the term douche canoe come from? And wouldn't it be easier to just say Canouche?

Heh just one of those stupid things my friends and I used to say when we were kids, damned if I know where it started, but its old as dirt.

The forum guild is actually one of the most laid back and fun guilds I've ever been in. Quite amazing considering where most members come from.

The level of autism is pretty much zero, people shouldn't be afraid to join up if they avoided it before.