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TJT

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Maybe. Just maybe. Ion filling the ranks at Bliz with his homeboys from Elitist Jerks wasn't the best idea.

This is basically what Metzen and Morhaime did when they filled the ranks with Kaplan and Furor back in 2005 though. So... how did it all go so wrong?
 

Urlithani

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I don't want to be mean, but for that to work they would need to have someone who understands MMORPG games. Someone like Yoshi-P, who played every big MMO under the sun, and who wrote the infamous Excel sheet of what to do, and how to do it, for FFXIV: ARR in six weeks. I'd pay money to get that Excel sheet, but I guess I'd have to learn Japanese first.

Instead they have Ion, who only likes raids and finds the overworld and leveling annoying, and only for casuals. Instead they have a visual FX guy as lead class designer, probably because everyone else ran away, frustrated, by everyone having an opinion, and that we have to "esport" our flagship with PvP and PvE tournaments. Instead they have a non-binary ex-theorycrafter from Ion's band of merry jerks, that seems to jerk off to stacking systems on top of systems like a Jenga tower, with comparable stability after players like Rextroy start pulling the pieces apart.

The key difference here is that Yoshi-P seems to love his players. He plays with them on stream. He parses 95 in a PUG, as a black mage, at the end of the content cycle. Meanwhile the ivory tower at Blizzard looks more and more like Barad-dûr.

Ah, I guess the "not trying to be mean" didn't work out. Let's go full shitpost now.,

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Blizzard's company culture has been corrupted too far for anyone to come in and turn it around on the level Activision would allow.

The classic tale of the Golden Goose: it lays one gold egg a day, but that's not enough for Actiblizz. They want all the eggs, and they want them now. So they kill the goose and cut it open...and there are no eggs.

YoshiP's spreadsheet is part of it, but the driving force that makes FFXIV what it is; it's the primary vision which shapes the culture: "We are making something enjoyable FOR the customer, not for us. The customer is what matters. They are why we have a job."

Blizzard cant be saved because Activision won't give anyone the power to change that culture.
 

Caeden

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Maybe. Just maybe. Ion filling the ranks at Bliz with his homeboys from Elitist Jerks wasn't the best idea.

This is basically what Metzen and Morhaime did when they filled the ranks with Kaplan and Furor back in 2005 though. So... how did it all go so wrong?
If you read up on it, Pardo didn’t just hand Kaplan a job. It took months of discussion. And they still made him go through the app process (probably a formality?). This thing probably waltzed into a job. How many former EJ people are there? Things make more sense now.
 
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TJT

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Ion is still a great raid designer. The trouble is there's more to a MMO than that.
 
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Gavinmad

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Ion is still a great raid designer.
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Cybsled

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Right, it’s possible to be great at something, but not so great at an overall position.

You could have an amazing engineer, but that engineer might not be the best fit for running the entire business
 

Caeden

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There’s a problem with American business culture too there. If you don’t become a “leader” or “manager” you are a “failure.” Nevermind you might be the greatest engineer a company has.
 
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TJT

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Given as that has happened to me once already. You can be a great engineer and hit a fucking dead-end career growth wise. Unless you go into management.

Sad fucking truth.
 
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BoozeCube

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There’s a problem with American business culture too there. If you don’t become a “leader” or “manager” you are a “failure.” Nevermind you might be the greatest engineer a company has.

It's common to be promoted to a level of incompetence. This is 100% business culture and has been researched thoroughly.

At the same time no company has ever been improved through diversity, affirmative action, women, SJW, trannies, and faggots. Any time to stop hiring based on skill and merit you are doomed to fuck yourself. Also didn't EJ go from 90's gamer culture shitlord, to fairy faggot trannies and shit??? Pretty sure their forum turned into that exactly... I bet Ion is a closet tranny.
 
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Caeden

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Given as that has happened to me once already. You can be a great engineer and hit a fucking dead-end career growth wise. Unless you go into management.

Sad fucking truth.
Yep. So far my company doesn’t seem to fall into that trap. Most of my direct reports make more than I do and have excellent trajectories.
 

Caeden

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It's common to be promoted to a level of incompetence. This is 100% business culture and has been researched thoroughly.

At the same time no company has ever been improved through diversity, affirmative action, women, SJW, trannies, and faggots. Any time to stop hiring based on skill and merit you are doomed to fuck yourself. Also didn't EJ go from 90's gamer culture shitlord, to fairy faggot trannies and shit??? Pretty sure their forum turned into that exactly... I bet Ion is a closet tranny.
The Peter Principle. I think there’s a lot of effort being put into changing that, but it completely butts against the stupid push for diversity. Something will give.

I stopped looking at EJ early in Wotlk when it became clear the quality was sliding or quantity was sliding whichever.
 

Masakari

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We have a whole generation raised on woke, and any creative brain matter is spent on coming up with new genders.
 
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Caeden

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I bet the next thing that Morhaime’s company comes up with will be at least good gameplay.

But game design is a lot like science and math. You typically do your best work in your 25-45 range and spend the rest of your years chasing your own accomplishments. I mean, see what most of the d2 guys did post Blizzaed North.
 

Cybsled

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I do wonder what is going on in ActiBlizz HQ after all of this.

Some uncomfortable meetings and quick turn around action plans would be my guess. If subs nosedive, that is when you would probably see mixups in leadership. Bad optics won’t matter to Activision unless it translates into dollars