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Kuro

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I hope this somehow spins out of control and kills the entire MMO industry. Fourteen days til we find out Yoshi's been grabbin Ps.
 
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Gavinmad

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btw Riot retracted their settlement (dunno if thats the right word) in their own sexual harassment scandal so maybe they won't shitcan Ghostcrawler.
 
Sieger

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You mean Riot won't let him go easy. He'll be subject to a few workshops, and he'll be super cautious interacting with anyone before he gets Actiblizz'd.

I think him moving to Riot /after/ their Kotaku incident years ago means he's willing to drop the Cosby Suite bullshit (which was well documented on his own Twitter about how there "always has to be a Cosby suite"), and move on with his live making actual games instead of playing office politics.

Rioters have already had their #MeToo moment years ago, this exact thing in fact with a different Kotaku reporter, and they made the changes internally to prevent that from happening again.

The best thing Greg could do right now is apologize and ensure the world he won't ignore predatory people he works with that are getting preyed upon by sr. management again. And hope he's not named in the lawsuit due to Facebook group chat association, because that would be games industry career-ending for him.

Notice I said people, not men or women, this isn't a sexism or racism SJW issue. I truly believe the issues with the games industry are deeper seeded than social justice. The issues are with people in power abusing their leverage over others, and those abused (whether it be sexually, physically, stereotyped, financially, quid pro quo, or otherwise) having no recourse for the misdeeds of management.

This happens in open source, in professional workplaces, in hobbies, in highschool, etc - the details don't matter much after the accused is proven guilty with sufficient evidence provided to a public display.

Here's a good example of a female employee involving a company decision that could have been made against any gender or race and was abused due to her position compared to management:

Tiggs, SWG's former CM, told me a story years ago about how she was told to lie to the SWG community on behalf of SOE so they could kill the game, as the licensing drama was becoming toxic and unsustainable for LucasArts... She refused to lie on behalf of the players, and was escorted out by a police on the request of SOE, even though she wasn't hostile or upset in the process.

It doesn't matter her gender. It matters that a person in power abused their position to exert their control over someone, to make an already shitty situation worse. I'd love to see what Raph Koster thought of that or if he even knew. I love him to death as an amazingly talented, brilliant game designer, and I'd like to hope if he knew the circumstances, what he would have done differently.
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I must have missed the part where anything in the story about Tiggs shows inappropriate corporate behavior? She was told told to do something and refused (insubordination) and was fired. Part of a corporate PR job (which is what a CM is), is messaging the way the corporation tells you to, your job isn't to speak truth, it's to speak in the company's interests. There's charitable organizations, social justice organizations, various movements and causes, and if all that fails a career in investigative journalism (which needs more people interested in the truth) if you're obsessed with speaking truth to people. Corporate PR is not one of those jobs.
 
Sieger

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All the examples in the lawsuit are out of context. We do not know anything about what actually was said or happened, and most likely will never know since this case will settled for some huge sum of money. The picture of Cosby, and the name of a hotel room are meaningless and have not led to ANY allegations of harassment / assault taking place at the Cosby Suite (to my knowledge). The Kotaku article even offers up 2 differing versions of why the picture / name was used given by those in the picture and by simps deciding to speak up now.
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As I've said a number of times DFEH isn't looking to prove specific cases of harassment. Its looking to prove disparate pay, promotions, anti-pregnancy discrimination, and HR practices out of compliance with California law. It doesn't have to prove a single case of harassment to carry the case on every point outlined.
 
Warrik

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This is what we in the biz like to call, Bad Optics. All these dudes are done. The suits will happily fry them all to save the money train(s) from dying. The big scramble right now is for heads, and for some of these guys, they literally put the noose around their own necks.
 
mkopec

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Like I said before, no matter what they do, no matter what they say, this has already took a life of its own on shitty social media. They are all guilty all of them are my soggy knees, rapists, bill cosby apologists, All of these people would be hung in the town square tomorrow if it was up to these idiots, for saying hey bring hot chix!

Thank god I was smart enough to stay the fuck off social media. Fuck that noise.
 
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jayrebb

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Chatting about "bringing hot chix" is abuse and rape now, holy shit.
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His statement invites women to come forward and challenge him. He issued a CHALLENGE in the twittersphere.

This statement he gave is exactly why women will come forward and say Alex did X Y Z and you watched. He's going to be cancelled and fired live on Twitter.

He opened a tornado with this internal memo he decided to cut and paste to twitter-- just because he's feeling the heat. This fucking dumbass is literally firing himself from Riot live. He has to delete the tweet and talk to Riot.
 
Arbitrary

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Gavinmad said:
omg stop talking you idiot nobody believes you and its gonna come out that you're lying anyway

no wait keep talking this is great entertainment
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I can't believe no one has driven to this man's house and slapped the goddamn phone out of his hands. On the other hand

Let's Keep Going And See What Happens | Know Your Meme
 
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TJT

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Of all the stupid ass things a bunch of nerds could have called their party room it had to be Cosby lol. To the extent of having a massive portrait of him. Even if it was some random bullshit they got at a flea market and found funny.

Holy shit it's amazing.
 
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Chris

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Man, again--have you never worked in corporate America? Bro I was being told in 2007 when I graduated college "sanitized all social media, get rid of any drinking photos you have on Facebook, don't post on social media from accounts that could link you to your employer." This stuff isn't new whatsoever. What's unusual is you guys acting like it is.
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Yeah I started teacher training in 2010 and scrubbed my facebook account of my drunk university pictures. We all did it.

Normal people like us used social media casually with IRL friends and had anonymous gamertags for internet stuff with strangers.

To Californian soyfaces in tech, social media is their entire lives and they post on it constantly. They can't help but have a bad political take or drunken moment on there.
 
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Anyone who pretends to give any fucks about what this cunt said at Blizzcon is lying for virtue signal points.

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Seriously.... all these fucking faggots pretending to give a shit. This is beyond ridiculous, and the sad fact is even if everyone is canceled and every reference to Furor, or anyone else is removed NOTHING WILL HAVE ACTUALLY FUCKING CHANGED!
 
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Kirun

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Dude, if there's one thing about Alex, it's that he delivers the FUCKING GOODS!? Amirite boiz!?! Who's bringing the hot chix?!
 
Sieger

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mkopec said:
Like I said before, no matter what they do, no matter what they say, this has already took a life of its own on shitty social media. They are all guilty all of them are my soggy knees, rapists, bill cosby apologists, All of these people would be hung in the town square tomorrow if it was up to these idiots, for saying hey bring hot chix!

Thank god I was smart enough to stay the fuck off social media. Fuck that noise.
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And like literally any PR person with any experience at all could have predicted this is exactly what would happen, corporations don't have a ton of rules and boring cultures because the upper execs jerk off over how thick the Employee Handbook is, it's because it's an effective way to manage risk -- financial, legal, and reputational (arguably the biggest risk a company has and the hardest to easily fix.)
 
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Juvarisx

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The amount of people who get fired / in trouble / divorced / in the marketing sector at trade shows constantly that I have seen tells me there was something really off about the leadership at Blizz. You are there to portray your company in a positive light not drink and fuck on the company's dime. You maybe pay to get whale clients those things but you stay sober.

You all can talk about agency and whatever all you want, the women should have been fired too, here is the thing NOONE was and thats the fucked up part. Its not like the women lasted long there anyways from the looks of it.
 
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