Daidraco
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As was foretold. If the class was introduced with problems - its going to continue to have problems.
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As was foretold. If the class was introduced with problems - its going to continue to have problems.
Chris
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It's OK, you all get to enjoy the inevitable rewrites of the entire class.
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Daidraco
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Right? Theyre probably just designed to work well with people that use controllers to play.
Chersk
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Aren’t you the FF guy that can’t help but give the good news in every thread about that garbage ass game? You’re like a fucking Mormon laughing at Scientology.
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Chris
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Daidraco
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I doubt you and your wife are going to do Mythic raiding. Play on any server you want. You wont get a good answer of who is playing and who isnt, here, out of fear of mockery or something. I usually play the launches at the very minimum, but I havent even bought this one. Everyone knows the expansion has been rushed, but even with broken classes, missing content with the "it'll be in by Retail launch!" it sounds rough. Give us some feedback if you want.
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YttriumF
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Not yet ... installing bnet client and will be checking it out. I have not played since Warlords.
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Not planning on buying the new expac yet, figured we’d kick around and do a few of the old expansions to level some toons. Will look at Dragonflight once it’s out and if the wife decides a she likes retail better. We wound up rolling on Dalaran.
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Burns
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The current current state is Shadowlands is cut short and everyone is waiting on the new xpac to drop. Pre-patch is less than a month away (probably), so it's best just to wait until then, if anyone is thinking of playing this month...
As for the beta:
It is hard to guess how bad things will be until prepatch hits. Their internal build could be a month ahead of beta, or it could be mostly the same as beta.
I went and looked at a few class discords to see if they had the current bugs sticked (I'm not spending time sifting though discord chat shit). Only the rogue disco was keeping decent track of the bugs, but no one has made a handy dandy picture with the current patch's bugs (rogue) to compare with last patch.
Mechanics wise, it's the same as always, some classes get good shit, others just get shit on. Again, once pre-patch hits, and everyone is playing it, it should be easier to see the flaws in the design.
M+ is going to be 4 new dungeons and 4 old dungeons each season (instead of all 8 new dungeons). It's also getting some changes with affixes, gear will scale all the way up to M20, and each level will scale harder. So M20 in Dargonfight will be closer to M25 or some such (I'm not doing the actual math to see what the real equivalence is). I would assume M20 gear ilevel will be equal to the first 3 bosses in Mythic raids...
Raids are the same as they have always been with the exception of a new loot mode, which is priority group loot, or some such. Personal loot is gone.
Read some people complaining that casuals wont have anything to do, but don't care about "casual" content if they are talking about Torgast type stuff and world quest (dailies) type shit, so didn't care to read more.
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Daidraco
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Heres the breakdown as far as I can tell. Though Vault is different etc.
The third "pillar" to gameplay is supposedly open world content this time around. "Casuals" not having anything to do is only mildly full of shit. They can gear up entirely using this pillar of gameplay and with some competitive pieces, too.
With trades and crafts, factions to raise, collections, they have a lot actually. We've always had these to some extent, but now they have their own path of progression tied to them. By the way Ive seen people talk to about factions, and grinding out trades etc. is that you'll always be able to grind them out - but just like AP, your biggest gain will be your daily allotment and then anything meaningful past that will take hours of grinding. I dont think anyone is a fan of time gating, but it is what it is.
The four factions in at release to grind (with levels similar to Shadowlands covenant grind):
Then an example of Blacksmithing, (think this one is weaponsmithing) with its multiple levels that basically works like a talent tree. Even herbs, ores etc. have their own talent tree to put points into similar to this:
Then you have an entire suit of gear to acquire that has its own perks/stats relevant to crafting:
But dont be confused by all the new shiny overworld content - it is by far more min/max to do Mythic+ and Raiding. As long as time gating is tacked onto this shit, its useless for the vast majority of people.
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Caeden
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Hadn’t seen that because I basically shitpost WoW and jerk off to how great vanilla through wrath was.Heres the breakdown as far as I can tell. Though Vault is different etc.
The third "pillar" to gameplay is supposedly open world content this time around. "Casuals" not having anything to do is only mildly full of shit. They can gear up entirely using this pillar of gameplay and with some competitive pieces, too.
With trades and crafts, factions to raise, collections, they have a lot actually. We've always had these to some extent, but now they have their own path of progression tied to them. By the way Ive seen people talk to about factions, and grinding out trades etc. is that you'll always be able to grind them out - but just like AP, your biggest gain will be your daily allotment and then anything meaningful past that will take hours of grinding. I dont think anyone is a fan of time gating, but it is what it is.
The four factions in at release to grind (with levels similar to Shadowlands covenant grind):
Then an example of Blacksmithing, (think this one is weaponsmithing) with its multiple levels that basically works like a talent tree. Even herbs, ores etc. have their own talent tree to put points into similar to this:
Then you have an entire suit of gear to acquire that has its own perks/stats relevant to crafting:
But dont be confused by all the new shiny overworld content - it is by far more min/max to do Mythic+ and Raiding. As long as time gating is tacked onto this shit, its useless for the vast majority of people.
literally stole that from 14. Probably made it worse.
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Hey hey people, did you spend a bunch of time getting tier sets, on your main and alts, so you could use them while leveling in Dragonflight? Well guess what, we changed all the classes so much that we will have to disable those sets when the pre-patch hits...oops.
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Burns
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A lot of people don't like leveling, and will use the end of the xpac to get their characters as strong as possible, in order to spend the least amount of time leveling. From what I have read, there are multiple ways to get set items, so it's easier than running alt raids in mythic or heroic.
Back before they started heavily sharding everyone and level scaling zones, I spent a decent chunk of time preping for release, just to get ahead of the mob. There is nothing worse than fighting for taps/spawns. There were always a handful of quests with stupid low drop rates and respawns, that are required to progress, where everyone piled up.