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Koushirou

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Shit, I always wished enhancement was a real, true support spec. Thought that was something WoW kinda was missing vs. some other MMOs. Too little, too late for me, though. Maybe in the future one day if the company ever pulls its head out of its ass.
 
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Burns

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I can see that. As the CC is very limited for the spec. FFXIV stuff just doesnt immediately spring to mind for me, personally. If the spec does well, then I can imagine seeing different forms of support specs becoming available with the next few expansions. Quite a few classes could take a one of their specs and turn it into a support class. Something like a Frost Mage could really shine with being a support by offering lots of CC and defensive capability to a group, adding to it offensively with a constant miniature Lust in their rotation. (as an example.)

It will have the same problem Disc has had since Cata (?), in that they can never balance it correctly.

They will probably make it OP to start, to get people playing it, then rug pull it for next xpac, as is tradition. After that it will see-saw between being good and shit, depending on raid or 5 man content. With nerfs getting handed down because it's OP in raid to make it unplayable in 5 man, until enough people complain for it to get overhauled to again be OP in raid, and start the cycle anew.
 
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Daidraco

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It will have the same problem Disc has had since Cata (?), in that they can never balance it correctly.

They will probably make it OP to start, to get people playing it, then rug pull it for next xpac, as is tradition. After that it will see-saw between being good and shit, depending on raid or 5 man content. With nerfs getting handed down because it's OP in raid to make it unplayable in 5 man, until enough people complain for it to get overhauled to again be OP in raid, and start the cycle anew.
Disc was the one in my mind that it would be a good fit for, and as Koushirou Koushirou mentioned - Shaman's spec. But ya, the player base is always going to be subject to their poor balancing act. Im still of the theory that they have some big brained idea that they purposefully rotate classes in how powerful they are through each expansion with a pre-planned list of items from raids/mythics just to keep the meta "fresh" or some other BS. The only time that fails to make any sense is the classes that failbot all expansion, or in reverse, like a Warlock, are top tier for most of the expansions. Which is more likely to be just a lack of focus or trouble at the development level, but the point stands.
 
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Kuro

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Rogue has felt pretty evergreen. They've had some pretty bullshit utility over time (or were just near-unkillable if they had half a brain in pve).

But that may just be my jealousy as a Windwalker monk.
 

Penance

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I can see myself playing any class, any spec in this game, hell even any race (yea even a furrie yiffer, they have best mount/xmog hunting racial in the game, portable hearth, and the model doesn't look like ass).



Except fagdrags. What a absolute turd topping to an otherwise great expansion pack.
 

Aaron

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I just miss my old Vanilla Beast Master Hunter... Probably the only class in any game that I truely loved to play. Finding, taming, feeding and caring for your pet. Finding new abilities to teach it. Learning how to solo content that would take 2-3 people normally to run. Good times!
 
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Merrith

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I can see that. As the CC is very limited for the spec. FFXIV stuff just doesnt immediately spring to mind for me, personally. If the spec does well, then I can imagine seeing different forms of support specs becoming available with the next few expansions. Quite a few classes could take a one of their specs and turn it into a support class. Something like a Frost Mage could really shine with being a support by offering lots of CC and defensive capability to a group, adding to it offensively with a constant miniature Lust in their rotation. (as an example.)

Yeah I was picturing it as something that maybe does some dps (but lesser than a normal spec), and the rest of its contribution is basically considered what it adds to other party/raid members. I do wonder how that type of gameplay would do in a Mythic raid environment like WoW's. Would players enjoy it? Would top raiding guilds think it's useful over just having another normal dps, etc.
 
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Palum

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The success of these specs relies on how Details or other meters implement the buffs. It's going to be a shit show of people complaining about lfg/rf/etc. getting stuck with underperforming specs. IMO Blizz needed to actually change the logging so it separated "enhanced" damage from core calculation in black and white, which to my knowledge they did not do?
 

Cybsled

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Just saw this - Blizzards attempt at introducing an "Enchanter" type of class to WoW. (Augmentation Spec)

Unless this class casts a debuff spell on a raid boss which instantly causes them to become top aggro and get insta gibbed by the boss, then they aren’t a true enchanter
 
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Daidraco

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Yeah I was picturing it as something that maybe does some dps (but lesser than a normal spec), and the rest of its contribution is basically considered what it adds to other party/raid members. I do wonder how that type of gameplay would do in a Mythic raid environment like WoW's. Would players enjoy it? Would top raiding guilds think it's useful over just having another normal dps, etc.
I cant remember where I read it, whether it was from a long tweet / article, or a streamer said it - but they specifically highlighted/said that they added hooks into the UI for Addons to pick up that would allow them to show that specific persons worth with the spec. I feel like unless they are just straight busted right off the line, people are going to be slow to pick them up. Though Ill surely log in and bust my load on a DPS class to see how high my numbers can go.

Its just nice to see something truly "new" and "unique" added to WoW for a change. Everything has just seemed "same'ish" for so long.
 

uniqueuser

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Sure sign your game is a dead, soulless husk is when details of new gameplay are immediately reduced to autistic meta concerns of how to represent them with a performance meter.
 
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Palum

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Sure sign your game is a dead, soulless husk is when details of new gameplay are immediately reduced to autistic meta concerns of how to represent them with a performance meter.
Well other people are dumb and only follow colored bars.
 
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Furry

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Even the furfags don’t seem to care about the gay dragons. There’s tons of porn of night elf cat druid form, worgens, and there’s even some vorpil and pandaren porn. Haven’t stumbled upon a single picture of this new race in the wild yet. I’m sure I could find some if I searched, but don’t care to do that.
 
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Happysmiles

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There apparently was a massive patch in the last few weeks. Nobody seemed to notice. Perhaps if it's added to Gamepass players will come back?
 
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Daidraco

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There apparently was a massive patch in the last few weeks. Nobody seemed to notice. Perhaps if it's added to Gamepass players will come back?
I mean - Im all for shitting on WoW.. its like the hot ex from high school that turned into a huge fat ass whale. Or in this case, cut off part of her leg to become a dude named Ted. But, no, we talked about it. Most notably, the Augment class. As far as the the time rift shit or w/e? Meh. All you have to do is scroll up not even a full post.
 

Burns

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Burns

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Whatya know, the new spec was bugged on release, but when they fix it, it becomes the best at both overall and single target. Also, Ret Paladins got a major overhaul when this raid tier opened up, glad to see that's working out for them!

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P.S. I'm not playing, but stop by WoWhead to read D4 & WoW news every so oft.
 
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Daidraco

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Whatya know, the new spec was bugged on release, but when they fix it, it becomes the best at both overall and single target. Also, Ret Paladins got a major overhaul when this raid tier opened up, glad to see that's working out for them!

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P.S. I'm not playing, but stop by WoWhead to read D4 & WoW news every so oft.
Ill get a slight laugh when its dead last next expansion like every other new class and their following expansion. Not at all surprised that the majority of melee is at the bottom of the charts, as well.