World of Warcraft: Season of Discovery

i've done BFD with a rogue tank but I was a DPS so not really paying attention, idk how hard it was for the other tank or for the healers to keep them up, but they do great dmg ie have good threat against single target, much like warlock tanks.

FYI idk how sweaty you guys are for gearing but sixtyupgrades has added a SoD tab so you can now track/manage gear sets for this.

finally got some gear upgrades on today's lockout for my druid, just need boots now.

edit: mist crying about an "expensive" rune even though every class has the exact same expense, which is infinitely simpler than the warlock tank rune is to get.

Paladin is of course the best tank, warriors are also fine. For single target Warlocks and rogues are both ok. Feral is the worst tank this phase and it's not even close.

wrong, the rogue rune isn't even the main tank rune.

Lets go through them, shall we? Grizzby Rune for:

Druid: Primary Tank rune (dmg reduction, no crit)
Hunter: pvp rune (more dmg w/o pet)
Mage: big Tank heal rune
Paladin: DSac (raid dmg reduction)
Priest: Healing rune (faster heals after flash heal)
Rogue: offhand combo builder in tank stance (not primary tank rune)
Shaman: DW spec (enh dps rune)
Warlock: Demonic Pact (raid dmg buff)
Warrior: Tank mobility rune (charge/intercept any stance/in combat. yes also helpful in pvp)

Your point is laughably wrong. The main tank rune for rogues is off the new AH rep which was initially hard to get/expensive but changed to friendly/2g so it takes about an hour to knock out at lvl 15, assuming you have the gold.

Mist said:

Tanking as a rogue is obnoxious and requires a very expensive rune.

Total failure as a concept, unlike Warlock which works fantastic.

Feral and pally are also fantastic.

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For those of you following along at home, not only was mist both actually and technically incorrect on literally every single thing she said in the above post;

Mist said:

The priest rune is fucking useless.

The rogue rune gives 10% parry and faster combo point generation. It's not required for tanking. The one that's required for tanking requires grinding the new reputation, which was originally Honored and took forever before they lowered it to Friendly.

Either way, Rogue tanking wasn't viable until cap.

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She is also incapable of admitting when she is wrong in the second.

The factually correct answer to the original question:

Tanking in this phase on a rogue is great for single target fights but you lack aoe. The rune requires a quick rep farm you can do in an hour at level 15 but most likely you wont have the 2g until you are closer to level 20, plenty of time to tank every single dungeon (except perhaps rfc, if you are horde) prior to working your way up to the raid at 25.

Of all the non-tanks given the optional tank role via runes in SoD, only shamans have an easier path than rogues to their tank runes (which shaman can unlock by lvl 12-15), however due to combo point mechanics and lack of aoe abilities, you will have a hard time tanking packs of mobs and may opt to only tank in single target encounters/raids.

Ok sure, slightly more than an hour. you got me.

by level 15 you've probably already turned in 5-10 of the crates at 100-450 honor, depending on your trade skills/materials you have on hand (the level 6 ones give 100 rep empty, 300 complete. the ~lvl 15 ones give 100 empty, 450 complete. obviously human bonus gets you an additional 10%)

So if you've done nothing but quested around elwynn/westfall/loch/etc and did the normal quest chains that have you stop off and go to both SW and IF repeatedly and turned in empty boxes (or the equivalent horde quests org/tb while questing barrens) you should have between 500-1500 rep already when you reach the level you can get the rune.

Now most people don't do this, because there is no fucking point to getting the rune at 15, but you can very easily turn in 1 empty box every 5-6 minutes (that's how long the run takes from SW to kobold mine and back) and there's always a chest outside of the kobold mine unless you play at some god forsaken hour where there isn't 10+ layers of elwynn up and no people around.

I did 1500 to 3k on my druid in less than 30 minutes. granted I was already 25 and had the gold so I bought mats from the AH (total gold spent maybe 3.5g including the 2g for the rune itself) so it only took 5 runs and that includes the time it takes to stop in the AH each run, buy the shit then pick it up from the mailbox each time. it would have taken me just over an hour to do 15 runs, an hour and 15 minutes actually.

you can go in with a group of fresh 25 mouthbreathing retards, wipe two or three times on 2 or three bosses and still be done in under an hour.

BFD was an interesting choice as first dungeon turned raid, mostly im guessing they chose it to test the concept before they let the rest of the classic team know about this season of discovery idea they were working on.

Its one of the tiniest dungeons in classic, roughly the size of rfc, barely larger than stockades. Even slamming into every encounter face first, window licking the entire way its simply too small of a dungeon with too little trash for it to take very long.