That's not counting a lot of court ordered in-patient rehabilitation facilities for juvenile drug users (these are almost all private,) or court ordered in-patient psychological 'treatment' facilities that aren't technically full committals (these are about half and half, but getting more privatized each year.) There's also privately run school facilities that are basically prisons or day-prisons.Look at Mist talking completely out of her ass again:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie | Prison Policy Initiative
http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/241060.pdf
Are you always this full of shit?
Devious seems pretty far-fetched since they bumblefucked their way through an attempted murder they planned for months, then confessed to the whole thing in great detail under what appears to be light questioning.I don't even think it punishes them that well. If these two really are devious criminal minds, they're just going to be rewarded with knowledge of how to become better criminals.
Treatment facilities where you can walk out anytime you like?That's not counting a lot of court ordered in-patient rehabilitation facilities for juvenile drug users (these are almost all private,) or court ordered in-patient psychological 'treatment' facilities that aren't technically full committals (these are about half and half, but getting more privatized each year.) There's also privately run school facilities that are basically prisons or day-prisons.
I'm an educational psychologist who's worked in these facilities, both public and private. I will try to get better numbers but because of the way some of these facilities are classified it's really tough to get the whole picture.
No. In-patient facilities that aren't committals. And the rehab facilities you can't leave either.Treatment facilities where you can walk out anytime you like?
So locked metal security doors, fences, cameras, thug ass guards who will tackle you to the ground if you try to escape the premises?No. In-patient facilities that aren't committals. And the rehab facilities you can't leave either.
What does this even matter? I was talking about how private companies profit from juvenile facilities. How does it matter just how tightly they're locked up?So locked metal security doors, fences, cameras, thug ass guards who will tackle you to the ground if you try to escape the premises?
This.Remember that woman who pushed her husband off a cliff just to end the marriage? That's these girls in 10 years.
Then how would Keg's mommy cut his steak?Can we ban knives already?! Banning knives would really solve this problem.
Because if that's not how it is then its not a detention facility. Here you go again, "I was talking about how private companies profit from juvenile facilities", when you specifically said that nearly all juveniledetentionis private for-profit, and that looks to be false.What does this even matter? I was talking about how private companies profit from juvenile facilities. How does it matter just how tightly they're locked up?
Talk about having no empathy or compassionThis.
These people are simply defective and are beyond redemption. You can never let them out unsupervised, they have demonstrated that they are willing to cross the line.
There are some things in life that you shouldn't get a second chance for regardless.
- Choose to walk in front of a train, you get death
- Choose to shoot a cop, you get death
- Choose to stab a 12 year old 19 times, you get death
Keep it simple
They're definitely being detained at these facilities. Incarcerated, maybe not.Because if that's not how it is then its not a detention facility. Here you go again, "I was talking about how private companies profit from juvenile facilities", when you specifically said that nearly all juveniledetentionis private for-profit, and that looks to be false.
Lots of companies profit from criminal justice/rehab/treatment, its an industry which requires service businesses to function.
There's no way they are getting 60 years like the article said anyway. And no one here is advocating that, but charging them as adults is something I am cool with, yes. They'll sit, likely not in an adult institution, until trial and get time served with a suspended sentence and significant probation. Possibly even get juvenile probation officers rather than force them into the adult system. And they'll be monitored and given mandatory mental health treatment.But for these kids, based on the article, at least one definitely appears to be mentally ill. There's nothing to say a 12 year-old needs to be locked away for life because of it. Plenty of people with 0 empathy lead fine, violentless lives (actually, I believe the statistic on the genetic psychopathy with low MAOA activity shows that they're LESS violent than normal peeps unless some childhood trauma/abuse/shittiness). But don't we owe it to ourselves as a society to try, not to mention study, and not just lock away/killchildrenwho don't conform. We also need to look at their upbringing and parents, because I'm going to bet there's something there that we can learn from that caused her empathy level to be near zero.
The amount of people here who think death/locking up pre-teen children is cool is scary.
With a gun of course.Then how would Keg's mommy cut his steak?