2 years later... the almost sad state of MMOs in the new era

Mahes · Dec 14, 2020

There is another game coming that fits the definition just fine.

It will have a monthly fee and 40 man raids. It even has a PvP model attached to it. This model includes a siege system. It is designed and being made in America and the person leading the development is actually using his money, along with what has been given via kickstarter for production. Now it might be over ambitious but if it manages to do 75% off what it states it will do, it will be worth it. The interesting thing is they start Alpha 1 phase in a few days for the first public playing of the game for those that bought that rank of kickstarter. They have set days for the following Alpha 1 stages going into next May. They have not advertised at all and yet in Guildwars 2 there are guilds like "Waiting on Ashes" that have formed.

You might want to check out the latest on Ashes of Creation. It seems to be moving along just fine and I know I will try it out.

Sadre Spinegnawer · Dec 14, 2020

I'll run for mayor on the Free Bratwurst platform. 20 minute duration, stackable, +20 sta -20 AGI cold resist +50.

tower · Dec 17, 2020

its gotten so bad that people are messaging me about a league mmo

i will not be playing the league mmo, but best of luck to those that do. and its been a while since ive seen ghostcrawler, best of luck to him too

Daidraco · Dec 17, 2020

A LOL MMO would be really cool looking, Im sure. Some of that lore is all to interesting to not read. But on the other side of that coin - how they are going to mesh all that shit into one universe is going to be a huge hurdle.

uniqueuser · Dec 18, 2020

Not that lore makes a damned bit of difference in any game, let alone an MMO, but a Markov chain text generator seeded with Pokemon fan fiction could produce a story more compelling than LoL's.

Daidraco · Dec 18, 2020

uniqueuser said:
Not that lore makes a damned bit of difference in any game, let alone an MMO, but a Markov chain text generator seeded with Pokemon fan fiction could produce a story more compelling than LoL's.

I honestly didnt know LoL even had an overarching story? I just thought they were all just a million tiny stories centered around a handful of characters at a time.

TJT · Dec 18, 2020

Daidraco said:
I honestly didnt know LoL even had an overarching story? I just thought they were all just a million tiny stories centered around a handful of characters at a time.

It started out that way. They've been retconning old character lore into a more cohesive singular world for years.

Ravishing · Dec 18, 2020

Daidraco said:
I honestly didnt know LoL even had an overarching story? I just thought they were all just a million tiny stories centered around a handful of characters at a time.

Universe of League of Legends

Welcome to Universe, the definitive source for the world of League of Legends.Here you’ll find a vast collection of art and artifacts, like bios chronicling the origins of your favorite champions and landscapes depicting the historic regions they hail from. It’s an evolving, multimedia archive...

universe.leagueoflegends.com

Map of Runeterra - Universe - League of Legends

Explore the world of League of Legends through an interactive map of Runeterra.

map.leagueoflegends.com

Daidraco · Dec 18, 2020

Ravishing said:
Universe of League of Legends

Welcome to Universe, the definitive source for the world of League of Legends.Here you’ll find a vast collection of art and artifacts, like bios chronicling the origins of your favorite champions and landscapes depicting the historic regions they hail from. It’s an evolving, multimedia archive...

universe.leagueoflegends.com

Map of Runeterra - Universe - League of Legends

Explore the world of League of Legends through an interactive map of Runeterra.

map.leagueoflegends.com

They make such a great website. Everytime I visit it, I'm always impressed. /nerdthings

Seems as though they are definitely setting the stones down for an MMO or single player world, for sure.

Love some of the art, too.

TJT · Dec 18, 2020

The LOL World is like, vaguely, there are several nation states with vastly different ideological positions all vying for control. With the two main ones being the nations of Demacia and Noxxus. Which are vaguely Arthurian and Roman Empire respectively.

Additionally you have Steampunk nation-states, Kung-Fu nation, spooky undead land, lost civilizations buried under stand, creeping Lovecraftian incursions, cutesy furry creatures, NEW Orleans inspired pirate town, the frozen north with trolls and barbarians, and whatever else.

It's actually quite ideal because the World part of the story is very vague with the only big lore focused heavily on the characters. Good bones for an MMO.

Erronius · Dec 27, 2020

I'm not even sure where to post this.

But when Richard Garriot went to space in 2008, the fucker smuggled some of James Doohan's (Star Trek's Scotty) ashes and hid them under the proverbial floorboards.

Ashes of Star Trek’s Scotty smuggled on to International Space Station

A secret mission to give Star Trek’s James Doohan a celestial resting place has been revealed after 12 years

www.thetimes.co.uk

The ashes of Scotty from Star Trek are aboard the International Space Station

James Doohan, boldly going into space years after his death.

www.theverge.com

uniqueuser · Dec 28, 2020

Unfortunately Dickard was beamed back down to the planet afterwards and not into the sun.

Sadre Spinegnawer · Jan 28, 2021

TJT said:
Kung-Fu nation

pandas?

Aychamo BanBan · Jan 28, 2021

Cant wait for new generation MMO to be all black lesbians.

Sadre Spinegnawer · Jan 28, 2021

That Ashes game, it just seems in this alpha testing of various modules of the game. That is dangerous. I tried to play SWTOR. It was two separate worlds. It made no sense. I honestly did not "get" whee I was at, gamewise.

Oh sure the game was lore signalling (TM!) right and left, but that's themes of areas and graphics. The game is not me pretending to be a dashing ...

I can't think about SWTOR. It was built by demented toddlers.

Maybe May for Ashes. I need to know what is the total game. I do not want add-a-module bs.

Daidraco · Jan 29, 2021

Sadre Spinegnawer said:
That Ashes game, it just seems in this alpha testing of various modules of the game. That is dangerous. I tried to play SWTOR. It was two separate worlds. It made no sense. I honestly did not "get" whee I was at, gamewise.

Oh sure the game was lore signalling (TM!) right and left, but that's themes of areas and graphics. The game is not me pretending to be a dashing ...

I can't think about SWTOR. It was built by demented toddlers.

Maybe May for Ashes. I need to know what is the total game. I do not want add-a-module bs.

Were you drinking?

What do you mean by add ons? Sort of like Guild Wars 2 where you purchase a new section of the story every so often? Or expansions as a whole for most other mmo's? Or simply stating that the development path being shown in Ashes is segmented into chunks of content that are specific to themselves?

Sadre Spinegnawer · Jan 29, 2021

don't drink. I was seeing how they are testing the game. component by component, right?

Alasliasolonik · Jan 29, 2021

Daidraco said:
Were you drinking?

What do you mean by add ons? Sort of like Guild Wars 2 where you purchase a new section of the story every so often? Or expansions as a whole for most other mmo's? Or simply stating that the development path being shown in Ashes is segmented into chunks of content that are specific to themselves?

Pay no attention to him. But he once saved Alan Alda from a heart attack. (Hes an open heart surgeon).

Octave · Jan 29, 2021

I had the same feeling when trying out SWTOR years after it's prime.

Most (all?) MMOs fall into this issue. They stack system upon system. When a new player starts playing, they get a bag full of 'free loot!' that seems completely useless. They're thrown into some random story and not told about the layer upon layer of systems that the player casually encounters. Some systems are super important for progression, others are dead ends. Which one to choose? Better google about it.

Playing an old MMO is like navigating an enterprise software system. A lot of useless paths from years ago and some new stuff tacked on which maybe is the stuff you want but you're not sure. Reminds me of netsuite or some ungodly SAP thing.

Maybe most MMOs lack longevity because of mistakes here. If the developers were better about curating, removing, and including past content, they'd have a lot more long term survivability. Churn happens. But if you can onboard new players reasonably well, you can do a lot to make up for it. They're utterly failing at that as it is now.

a c i d.f l y · Jan 29, 2021

When TOR added the "family" system it was already too many systems. WOW does this well by nuking nearly every new system each expansion, but also kills some of the good systems that should just be expanded upon, instead of being fully removed, or worse, minimized or made more annoying.

The new "intro" system they added that babies you, but also not at the same time is exceptionally stupid. Stop pretending your game is made for bottom feeding morons, then once they get past that the game fucks grandma in the ass.

2 years later... the almost sad state of MMOs in the new era

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