2013 NFL Season

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BrutulTM

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Talking heads can call them athletic all they want (and they are relatively speaking) but most linemen are obese I'd agree. Those guys aren't doing themselves any favors healthwise. I don't care how you're built, your body is going to break down eventually from carrying all that weight. I saw a pic of Matt Birk post retirement the other day and he's dropped a ton of weight, looked like the pic was taken at a running event. Seems like a smart move, going through your 40's and into your 50's at 300+ pounds is probably going to shorten your lifespan significantly. Of course all their brains are halfway to mush by then anyway so whatever.
There are a few fat linemen, but most of them are in better shape than anyone you know. I was mostly commenting about the stupidity of the BMI Charts, which don't even take sex into consideration when telling the world what they should weigh.

Witness Clay Matthews III, 6'3", 255 lbs, BMI 31.9, obese man.

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Genjiro

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Thought some of you might be interested in this.

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Rams gotta be drooling at how badly the Skins are doing. Add in their suckiness and they might have two top 10 picks with 1 being top 5~
 

Famm

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Witness Clay Matthews III, 6'3", 255 lbs, BMI 31.9, obese man.
I didn't mean linebackers though, the linebackers on the graphs are all falling under 300. I meant O-line, DT's and some ends, though as mentioned there are DE's who are essentially interchangable with OLB's.

I understand what you're saying, BMI is well known to be less useful for athletes in many different cases that deviate from an average person. But really, many linemen are pretty much fat asses along with having certain levels of conditioning to be able to play the game.

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Famm

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Thought some of you might be interested in this.

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Rams gotta be drooling at how badly the Skins are doing. Add in their suckiness and they might have two top 10 picks with 1 being top 5~
Seriously, combined with RG3 being a whole lot more underwhelming so far and potentially still injury risksy (he looked like he was back to head first running plays from what I saw Sunday night) the Rams might end up laughing all the way to the bank on this. Assuming they don't bumblefuck their way into a whole bunch of busts.
 

Genjiro

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The Rams are kind of fucked because they have Jeff Fisher who still wants to play 1973 football in todays NFL. Add to that Bradford being meh and their OC only being employed in the NFL because of his daddy and then you get a recipe for being the Browns.....where every year is a rebuilding year.
 

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So they were discussing this on the local sports talk show and I thought it was an interesting discussion. How does everyone feel about Thursday Night Football?

(Didn't think we needed a separate thread/poll for this, but here are some choices)

1.) Thursday games should be for Thanksgiving only!
2.) I like Thursday Night football the way it is (1 game a week)
3.) MOAR! Double headers Thursday Night, I would to watch NFL every night of the week!

I don't like Thurday Football purely from a fantasy and mini-games perspective. I hate having to get my roster set by Thursday and/or get my survivor picks in by then. I also hate the commentators they have on the NFL network but that isn't really related to having games on Thursday so much as having them on NFL Network.
 

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I like watching more football, but Thursday games are shit. I think a better solution to them would be schedule them after the 2 teams have their bye week every time. That way teams actually get some time to prepare rather than getting fucked by a super short week. It seems inevitable that there will be more Thursday night games in the future though. The league is going to do anything it can to make more money, and the more they can spread games out, the better viewership they'll get.
 

Tenks

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I like watching more football, but Thursday games are shit. I think a better solution to them would be schedule them after the 2 teams have their bye week every time. That way teams actually get some time to prepare rather than getting fucked by a super short week. It seems inevitable that there will be more Thursday night games in the future though. The league is going to do anything it can to make more money, and the more they can spread games out, the better viewership they'll get.
I'm echoing this. Thursday games just always seem to be sloppy and a poor on field product compared to Sunday games. I think it is a combination of player fatigue and coaches not having time to prepare. I have a hard time getting into any Thursday games because they're always either incredibly boring a clusterfuck.
 

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I'd rather just get rid of them but I agree they should do it after bye weeks if it could be scheduled that way.

Didn't there used to be late season Saturday games, after college was over?
 

Ameraves

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I'd rather just get rid of them but I agree they should do it after bye weeks if it could be scheduled that way.

Didn't there used to be late season Saturday games, after college was over?
Maybe, but the only Saturday games I recall is the playoffs.
 

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The most reasonable proposal I've seen is that they add a second bye week to the season (which expands the number of TV airings and makes everybody more money), and everyone's TNF game is aired after that second bye week (so it is ~10 days before the TNF game, and ~10 days until their next normal game). You would expect "normal" quality football with that sort of gap between games on both sides. (The Lions/Cowboys Thanksgiving games would still be a problem.)

The biggest problem with that proposal is that it either moves the season start up a week or pushes the end even further into February. The weather during this Super Bowl is more important than you'd think.

Edit: Yes, the NFL used to air one or two regular season Saturday football games in December. I believe those became the original games shown on the NFL network (which then morphed into more and more Thursday games).
 

Burnem Wizfyre

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The most reasonable proposal I've seen is that they add a second bye week to the season (which expands the number of TV airings and makes everybody more money), and everyone's TNF game is aired after that second bye week (so it is ~10 days before the TNF game, and ~10 days until their next normal game). You would expect "normal" quality football with that sort of gap between games on both sides. (The Lions/Cowboys Thanksgiving games would still be a problem.)

The biggest problem with that proposal is that it either moves the season start up a week or pushes the end even further into February. The weather during this Super Bowl is more important than you'd think.
Couldn't you could just skip the extra bye week, keep the rule of no TNF game unless it's after a bye by adding double header TNF (they actually discussed this part) games and the schedule wouldn't be negatively effected?
 

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My only problem with Thursday Night Football is that I can't watch it cause I don't have NFL Network. Yes, I know I can stream it, but I rarely go through the trouble of watching the game unless it's my team or a particularly interesting matchup (which it rarely is). On the rare case it's one of those two situations, I just go to the bar to watch the game. If it were on a real channel I'd probably watch it every week, at least passively in the background while I do something else.
 

Tenks

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Well good news for you is the rumor is the NFL is shopping selling the TNF games to major networks. Maybe they're realizing that no one wants to watch the NFLN when a TNF game isn't on.
 

Wombat

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Couldn't you could just skip the extra bye week?
If TNF was the only oddity, probably, but you also have the London games to worry about (up to three next season!). Historically, they've tended to tie those to bye weeks.

(Whether they should or not is an interesting question. London games start at 1 Eastern, so it's not like players are staying up late (not even compared to a MNF game!) and a flight from most cities to London isn't that much worse than most cities to the West Coast. Have the stadium lights at full blast for practices and extra thick curtains in their rooms (so the sun isn't coming up at 3AM player time) and I'm not even sure how much their bodies would notice.)
 

Famm

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I think that second bye week idea has been floated as a compromise for the league and the NFLPA instead of the league's desire to expand to 18 games. It would effectively stretch the season, eat some of the preseason which no one including players particularly like, and not force players into two more games of destroying their bodies.
 

Wombat

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Yes, the NFL also gets the benefit of saying the extra bye is for health concerns.

Though that may or may not be tied to one less pre-season game. Losing half a home game a year (5%) in local revenue (tickets and concession sales) may not be offset by less than a 5.8% increase in national revenue (TV contracts).

From a quality point of view, it'd be win-win (less pointless preseason games and better TNF matchups), but that doesn't mean it'd make financial sense.
 

Tenks

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Don't the owners share ticket sales? I thought the owners only pocket parking and concession sales.
 

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could someone explain the blackout thing for me? I heared on MNF (I think it was Tirico) that ESPN bought a bunch of tickets to prevent indy-charges game from being blacked out. I found it very odd that a network would buy tickets
 

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could someone explain the blackout thing for me? I heared on MNF (I think it was Tirico) that ESPN bought a bunch of tickets to prevent indy-charges game from being blacked out. I found it very odd that a network would buy tickets
If the game doesn't sell out, the locals can't watch it on TV.