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Ok, this made me laugh so hard. Morant is a retard, but he doesn't even care at this point.
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2024-2025 NBA Season - In Bronny We Trust
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Ok, this made me laugh so hard. Morant is a retard, but he doesn't even care at this point.
Brahma
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Will you guys stop with Curry couldn't handle the 80's/90's NBA. A shooter is a shooter. That is the one thing I can confidently say translate across all era's. Especially Curry. That dudes release may be the quickest ever. AND Curry is one helluva off the ball player. He knows how to get his looks.
What would not fly are the soft players like Lebron, or any of those players who could not handle a body leaning on them the entire game, or constant hard fouls. THEN we have hand checking...Oh please. Someone like Harden could not deal with hand checks. His game would be thrown all off.
Overall the big stars will still be big stars for the most part, but those players that are stars because of the gay ass rules, will have big issues in the 80's and 90's.
What would not fly are the soft players like Lebron, or any of those players who could not handle a body leaning on them the entire game, or constant hard fouls. THEN we have hand checking...Oh please. Someone like Harden could not deal with hand checks. His game would be thrown all off.
Overall the big stars will still be big stars for the most part, but those players that are stars because of the gay ass rules, will have big issues in the 80's and 90's.
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zzeris
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That was never even the argument. Look back just 3 pages and see Leonardo’s argument. Then see Alex do his big brain “ not everyone was Curry” argument that literally meant nothing to his overall argument and is well understood.
Alex
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I still think it's absurd to think that everyone in the 80s was just miles better than anyone today. That's your argument. That these dudes from the 80s would put up like 40+ points every single fucking game. Like players today are all worse across the board than they were 40 years ago. That's fucking retarded.
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Loser Araysar
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Were you even alive in 80s to watch the NBA? Or is your entire familiarity just the highlight reels?
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Alex
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I'm as old as a number of folks in this community. I do remember watching early 90s games.
Besides that's a poor deflection.
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The best players from most eras would be good in any era with a few exceptions were certain style players wouldn't necessarily have a good skillset for certain ruleset/environments. That said the current league is the deepest it's ever been drawing from the largest pool of players with international hoops being a legit source of players. In fact 3 of the 4 best players in the league are foreign, and you can even make it 4/4 if you care that SGA is Canadian. The average player now is significantly better than at any point in the game's history, and by a large margin. In the 80s/90s for every time you had someone get mugged in the paint you had 2 or 3 free baskets where the big got drawn out of the paint due to defensive rules and someone would get a free layup/dunk. You also had total dogshit off the ball play compared to today, Everyone is involved now. If you don't think Lebron would be ridiculous in the 80s or 90s I don't know what to tell you. The flopping stuff in general is done because it's rewarded, not because they're dying every time someone touches them. You had so many plays back then when you had wild mismatches in the post. I think Lebron would be able to post up a 6'2" guard just fine like everyone else was doing back then. That said Shaq would be a nightmare on offense today, but he'd be a huge defensive liability with all the movement today.
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Then why dont you remember how physical the defenses were before they banned handchecks in early 2000s?
Steph Curry would struggle to get a shot off and be nursing bruises by half time.
"Steph shoots that ball from half court because he has freedom"
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Somehow players like Jeff Hornacek, Mark Price, and Reggie Miller survived and thrived in that era just fine.
I think there would be a lot of adjustment both ways if you swapped players for different eras. Would a Charles Oakley or Rik Smits have the same careers in today's game? A lot of people would adapt, though. You've even seen that in many players in the past decade or two. Look at Brook Lopez. Zero three pointers shot in his first six NBA seasons combined and last season he shot 400+. He went from a low post banger to guarding all positions.
I think there would be a lot of adjustment both ways if you swapped players for different eras. Would a Charles Oakley or Rik Smits have the same careers in today's game? A lot of people would adapt, though. You've even seen that in many players in the past decade or two. Look at Brook Lopez. Zero three pointers shot in his first six NBA seasons combined and last season he shot 400+. He went from a low post banger to guarding all positions.
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So from the "There's no way they're STILL pissed about that" file...
Last night was the first night Luka played against the Mavs in Dallas. They made a big deal out of it, handed out T-shirts with something on them in Slovenian (couldn't use Luka's name or number because he's on another team, couldn't get them sponsored because Luka's people flatly refused to endorse such an idea). They play a montage during the player introductions that was literally a "Best of Luka, why he's a generational talent" highlight reel for him, even made the kid cry.
Then the game starts and it's an almost continually recurring set of the whole stadium chanting "FIRE NICO", cheering for every Luka bucket, and Luka hanging 45 (his season high in points) on the Mavs.
After the game they interviewed Luka where he said : "I love these fans, I love this city, but I guess it's time to move on"
If someone doesn't firebomb Nico Harrison's house this year I'll be mildly surprised. He had to watch the game from the tunnel and avoid cameras all night. Cuban had his head in his hands every time the chants started. Yeah, they've lost their fan base.
Last night was the first night Luka played against the Mavs in Dallas. They made a big deal out of it, handed out T-shirts with something on them in Slovenian (couldn't use Luka's name or number because he's on another team, couldn't get them sponsored because Luka's people flatly refused to endorse such an idea). They play a montage during the player introductions that was literally a "Best of Luka, why he's a generational talent" highlight reel for him, even made the kid cry.
Then the game starts and it's an almost continually recurring set of the whole stadium chanting "FIRE NICO", cheering for every Luka bucket, and Luka hanging 45 (his season high in points) on the Mavs.
After the game they interviewed Luka where he said : "I love these fans, I love this city, but I guess it's time to move on"
If someone doesn't firebomb Nico Harrison's house this year I'll be mildly surprised. He had to watch the game from the tunnel and avoid cameras all night. Cuban had his head in his hands every time the chants started. Yeah, they've lost their fan base.
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No, what’s retarded is your bias with nothing to back it up. AGAIN, since you somehow missed it, why are today’s players always injured in the post up and shoot era? They travel less distance than any previous time. They shoot more 3s. LeBron brags about doing what other players regularly accomplished in the 80-99s. Playing all the time. Explain it.
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LeBron is 40 and is still putting up top 10 numbers year in and year out. He's been in the NBA over 20 fucking years and logged more minutes than any other player in the history of the game.
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Alex
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Well bring it back to Curry. Dude is 37 and is still playing like the greatest PG of all time. Players are playing longer now too. They aren't slowing down at the rates they used to. That's across all sports. People thought Curry would be like Ray Allen at this point in his career; what you claim players are like now - just standing in a corner waiting for a pass to shoot a three.
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Alex
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If it's so easy why didn't Ray Allen do it longer? Also you're really showing your ignorance to off-ball movement. As I mentioned, Curry runs like three miles per game. Way more than any of those cigarette smoking alcoholics did in your glory years.
I mean look at what is considered one of the toughest dudes from that day in that NBA. He looks like fucking Zach Woods who portrays only nerds in today's film. Surprised his jersey doesn't have a pocket protector.
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I mean look at what is considered one of the toughest dudes from that day in that NBA. He looks like fucking Zach Woods who portrays only nerds in today's film. Surprised his jersey doesn't have a pocket protector.
Urkel had bigger biceps than Steph Curry
zzeris
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Wait one fucking minute!! So the guy who has attempted 2000 more 3 pointers than Ray Allen in more than 3 less years is just going to the 3 point line all the time? That’s not fucking possible. Are you sure?!
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Lmao some of you need a reality check on how physical the NBA was in the 80's and 90's. Its like you've just seen a few highlight videos of Bill Laimbeer laying guys out and think that's what the game was. Here's the first fucking Lakers-Celtics Finals game I came across - watch this thing. We're talking about the two best teams of the decade, period. Watch guys like Byron Scott and Dennis Johnson dribble around unimpeded before shooting 20 foot jumpers at will. The "hand-checking" thesis is wildly overrated. Watch how the majority of the time the defenses were packed inside the 3-point line, jumpshots rarely have good contests, you rarely see switches, etc.
I mean FFS i grew up watching Run-TMC who scored 120+ at will in the 80's and 90's basically by sub-6'7 guys shooting jumpers. Steph would have been just fine in the era lol. If he had truly existed in that era of course he wouldn't have had the impact he does today because coaches simply didn't let guys shoot that many 3's. But if you took Steph today and sent him back there in a time machine, told him to ignore the coaches and just bomb away at will - he would crush teams with Curry flurries and the 3-point era would come to be sooner. Hand-checking honestly would have done very little to slow him down - what teams can do him today is more effective. Due to his off ball play, today's switching, semi-zone, holding Curry off-ball defenses have more impact.
I mean FFS i grew up watching Run-TMC who scored 120+ at will in the 80's and 90's basically by sub-6'7 guys shooting jumpers. Steph would have been just fine in the era lol. If he had truly existed in that era of course he wouldn't have had the impact he does today because coaches simply didn't let guys shoot that many 3's. But if you took Steph today and sent him back there in a time machine, told him to ignore the coaches and just bomb away at will - he would crush teams with Curry flurries and the 3-point era would come to be sooner. Hand-checking honestly would have done very little to slow him down - what teams can do him today is more effective. Due to his off ball play, today's switching, semi-zone, holding Curry off-ball defenses have more impact.
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