2024-2025 NFL Season - Dak Prescott's MVP Tour Part 2

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jooka

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I cant blame him for going after the money like he did, before him and Adams left WR contracts were crap compared to what they both got. Obviously that has change dramatically now.
 
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Homsar

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WTF happened the second half? lions D just wear them down that bad? First half was great, second half was shit. Really think Lions can finally see it with that Defense
 

Alex

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The things Bengals fans tell themselves. Shit, I bet they'd love to see Cincy play Buffalo and maybe beat them for them.

Have you been paying attention to my posts at all this season? Bengals are a bad team. It's been like...the worst Bengals defense of all time. Which is fucking saying something. They shouldn't even be in the playoff conversation but Joe Burrow is the best. Greatest QB season ever for a non-playoff team. Fire the entire coaching staff. The season outcome has been absolutely unacceptable given what the offense did.

But of course they won't do a damn thing because they ended on a hot streak and "had a chance". Another year of Burrow elite performance will be wasted. We'll probably even be worse next year since Tee will be gone.
 
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jooka

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I was mildly interested in seeing the Bengals make the playoffs and Tee telling them to fuck off w/o a new contract before the first playoff game
 

Urlithani

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Giants are keeping Daboll and the GM Schoen.

Jaguars are keeping Trent Baalke at GM which is mind blowing. The only thing that makes sense is that he has dirt on some people.
 
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hory

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Cows keeping Mike and Zimmer?

Dak looks so checked out everytime they show him I'm the press box with the headset on pretending to care.
 
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TomServo

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Giants are keeping Daboll and the GM Schoen.

Jaguars are keeping Trent Baalke at GM which is mind blowing. The only thing that makes sense is that he has dirt on some people.
The Giants GMs 2024 offseason moves were to bet big on Jones(was dropped by the team) and kick Sequon out(goes on to a 2000 yard season) and all documented on hard knocks. how is that dude employed
 
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Because the sport as a whole has massively devalued veteran running backs in the last half decade, and if you have to pick between drafting a new qb or a new rb and expect him to perform well immediately, its the rb you draft.

Of course, the biggest X-factor this year was teams signing veteran RBs (Barkley, Henry, Jacobs) - though how much of this was their teams already having competent Olines vs not having other holes that they can afford to spend on veteran RBs vs over-devaluation of those RBs deserves further study.
 

Merrith

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Have you been paying attention to my posts at all this season? Bengals are a bad team. It's been like...the worst Bengals defense of all time. Which is fucking saying something. They shouldn't even be in the playoff conversation but Joe Burrow is the best. Greatest QB season ever for a non-playoff team. Fire the entire coaching staff. The season outcome has been absolutely unacceptable given what the offense did.

But of course they won't do a damn thing because they ended on a hot streak and "had a chance". Another year of Burrow elite performance will be wasted. We'll probably even be worse next year since Tee will be gone.

I'm not certain the whole coaching staff should get fired. But then again I don't know if there's drama behind the scenes with Burrow/Taylor. D has basically no one but a single pass rusher...that's a GM problem. It's bad enough the idea of affording a team around Burrow/Chase AFTER Chase gets paid and Burrow's cap number goes crazy, but they're not even there yet. Again, on the GM.

Now the slow starts every year, that feels like a Taylor problem. Burrow is great, don't get me wrong, but a lot of his stats are going to be somewhat inflated because the D is so bad. They're forced to air it out more than any other team in the league. Burrow is the only QB with over 600 passing attempts this year, and he's at 652. He also has arguably the best WR duo in the entire league (actually I don't think it's arguable).

Owner has to stop being cheap, too. They may have to sacrifice at WR to shell out some more money for O line and defensive talent. Force Burrow to do more of the heavy lifting himself the way the Chiefs have when they let go of Hill (although their O line is...something).
 

Lenardo

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he did a huge whiff on Jones, but, Elite RB's are notorious for being good for ~5-8 years then the punishment of the position catches up and Bam gone in 2-3 years.
the AVERAGE career for a Running Back is under 4 years.

look at Elliot, He was Elite for...6 years
Barkley is right around the age when their career's start to tank. he did have a most of a year off due to injury (2020) which imo helps him prolong his career
exceptions:
Current: Derrick Henry-statistically his 2nd best year was this year. he is on year 9.

Past:
Frank Gore
Water Payton
Tomlinson
Peterson
etc...
 

Merrith

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Because the sport as a whole has massively devalued veteran running backs in the last half decade, and if you have to pick between drafting a new qb or a new rb and expect him to perform well immediately, its the rb you draft.

Of course, the biggest X-factor this year was teams signing veteran RBs (Barkley, Henry, Jacobs) - though how much of this was their teams already having competent Olines vs not having other holes that they can afford to spend on veteran RBs vs over-devaluation of those RBs deserves further study.

Agree big time I think some people (mostly analysts, not actual front offices) will geek out over success teams that signed vet RBs had. But Henry going to Ravens who already were one of the best running teams in the league? Nobody surprised he did well. Packers who anytime Aaron Jones could actually stay on the field did very well? No surprise Jacobs was able to put together a solid year, especially with threat of Love and those young pass catchers not allowing teams to stack the box at all. Saquon behind one of the best O lines in the entire league (again with Hurts and 2 stud receivers)?

None of these should have surprised people, but narrative might get pushed to try and raise RB free agency profile some despite it mostly just being case of obvious good/very good players going to great situations equals good results.
 
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Merrith

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he did a huge whiff on Jones, but, Elite RB's are notorious for being good for ~5-8 years then the punishment of the position catches up and Bam gone in 2-3 years.
the AVERAGE career for a Running Back is under 4 years.

look at Elliot, He was Elite for...6 years
Barkley is right around the age when their career's start to tank. he did have a most of a year off due to injury (2020) which imo helps him prolong his career
exceptions:
Current: Derrick Henry-statistically his 2nd best year was this year. he is on year 9.

Past:
Frank Gore
Water Payton
Tomlinson
Peterson
etc...

Part of Henry's exception status is built in behind the fact he started as a backup in Tennessee behind Demarco Murray for 2 years, and did another year in a somewhat split backfield with Dion Lewis after that. You compare that to Zeke's usage over his career and he had more touches in each of his first 7 years than Henry had until Henry's 4th season.
 
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Ameraves

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Giants are keeping Daboll and the GM Schoen.

Jaguars are keeping Trent Baalke at GM which is mind blowing. The only thing that makes sense is that he has dirt on some people.
It's amazing Baalke still has a job. He proved to be absolute trash in San Francisco, yet has managed to continue to work. I wish I could get paid millions to be terrible at my job
 
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