A Song of Ice and Fire (Released Spoilers)

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Araxen_sl said:
George R.R. Martin doesnt know why you care so much about spoilers | The Verge



Book Spoilers don't matter anymore!
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For an author of a novel buillt on the foundation of incredible surprises this is a weird thing to think. I just imagined him writing the Ned Stark death scene, the Red Wedding, the Purple Wedding etc thinking, "Man my readers are going to be so fucking surprised when they tear into this.". And it was true. I still remember lazily reading through the generally boring red wedding's description of food and festivities until I saw the word crossbow, bolt, Roose, betrayal, Lannister etc and had to reread the previous paragraphs a few times to tell what was going on.

I know personally when I know a character is going to die in the middle of a fictional work it's harder for me to enjoy their story.
 
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Honestly, as much as I was disappointed in the last book, I just don't really care anymore. Bring on the show ending.
 
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The show has done a superior job with the story, IMO.
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This seems like kind of an odd comment simply because I think the first three books are pretty perfect and show mirrors them quite closely. Maybe you're talking specific to the stuff that's happened after that. I certainly expect to get a more concise story for the remaining book plot.

Only real complaint I have with the show is all the exposition they feel forced to do through Littlefinger's character. That's honestly a pretty big complaint of mine and I know I'm not the only one that has it. But, all in all, it doesn't ruin my enjoyment of the show or anything.
 
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Tuco_sl said:
For an author of a novel buillt on the foundation of incredible surprises this is a weird thing to think. I just imagined him writing the Ned Stark death scene, the Red Wedding, the Purple Wedding etc thinking, "Man my readers are going to be so fucking surprised when they tear into this.". And it was true. I still remember lazily reading through the generally boring red wedding's description of food and festivities until I saw the word crossbow, bolt, Roose, betrayal, Lannister etc and had to reread the previous paragraphs a few times to tell what was going on.

I know personally when I know a character is going to die in the middle of a fictional work it's harder for me to enjoy their story.
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I don't feel that way at all. I dove intot he show thread before I read the books and everything got spoiled, EVERYTHING. It wasn't a big deal to me and I love the books and really enjoyed reading them. I still enjoy rereading old books, I have read Watership Down like a hundred times but knowing the beats of the story doesn't kill it for me.

I can totally see how it would for people, and I think people should have respect for other people of course and not reveal stuff. But I find that I really don't care, I try to get engaged in the details of the story and maybe it is easier to do that when I go in knowing the major beats.
 
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Quaid_sl said:
The show has done a superior job with the story, IMO.
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I cannot disagree more. I enjoy the show and its great but its a pale imitation of a superior story. It loses so much nuance and I don't care for all the character changes.
 
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The only reason he's said "I don't get spoilers" is because fatty got behind on his writing. It was all "they'll never catch up to me" and they did! So now it's spoilers are ok! Whatever politician George. I'll watch the show regardless may skip on the books now.
 
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Chanur_sl said:
I cannot disagree more. I enjoy the show and its great but its a pale imitation of a superior story. It loses so much nuance and I don't care for all the character changes.
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That's probably where we differ. Where you saw nuance I saw flab. The show has done an excellent job of trimming the fat.
 
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Bruce Willis is a ghost and the Titanic sinks.
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chaos_sl said:
I don't feel that way at all. I dove intot he show thread before I read the books and everything got spoiled, EVERYTHING. It wasn't a big deal to me and I love the books and really enjoyed reading them. I still enjoy rereading old books, I have read Watership Down like a hundred times but knowing the beats of the story doesn't kill it for me.

I can totally see how it would for people, and I think people should have respect for other people of course and not reveal stuff. But I find that I really don't care, I try to get engaged in the details of the story and maybe it is easier to do that when I go in knowing the major beats.
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Did your reading of the Ned Starks death not have a dramatically different feel to it than when you watched it?
 
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Is there a video of Morgan Freeman doing a reading of Ned Stark's death? Cause that would be amazing.
 
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Tuco_sl said:
Did your reading of the Ned Starks death not have a dramatically different feel to it than when you watched it?
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Maybe, hard to remember. When reading it I knew it was coming and was just kind of in disbelief. During the show I was watching my wife more than the show, knowing she was thinking "ok, how does he get out of this..." But I think is both cases it felt equally insane that this was happening.
 
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Spoiled and unspoiled are completely different. Reading the Red Wedding sucked major balls at the time but I watched the scene on GoT in twisted pleasure.
 
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Quaid_sl said:
That's probably where we differ. Where you saw nuance I saw flab. The show has done an excellent job of trimming the fat.
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I promise the point of this question isn't just to be contrary, but do you have any examples of this for the first three seasons? I have the same complaints everyone does about AFFC and ADWD (especially Dragons), but I have zero complaints with the first three. They're three of the best fantasy novels ever written.
 
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