A Song of Ice and Fire (Released Spoilers)

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'Winds of Winter' release date update: George R.R. Martin latest book pushed to 2016?

George R. R. Martin still has fans waiting for his release of the sixth installment of his highly-esteemed masterwork series, "A Song of Ice and Fire". He is not close to ending his diehard followers' agony and curiosity as the 66-year-old bestselling author was reportedly requesting to have the release date of "Winds of Winter" moved to 2016 from the original 2015 schedule.
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Maybe this is a parody site and I missed the joke, but it still wouldn't surprise me if it's true. I have reached the final stage of grief - acceptance, as I have accepted that HBO is going to finish this story for us.
 
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Christian Today is the only site reporting that.





Christian Today.

I mean, it's not an unbelievable story, but consider the only source...
 
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I've not seen anything new announced by Martin since Aprilish this year, and at that time it sounded like he hadn't really done anything new since he moved chapters from Dance with dragons to Winds of Winter. I'd be surprised if we see a new book by 2016 given his track record (never mind 2015).

Honestly... I don't really think we'll see a new book by Martin at all. Maybe they'll get another author to write it.
 
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Mudcrush Durtfeet_sl said:
Honestly... I don't really think we'll see a new book by Martin at all. Maybe they'll get another author to write it.
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They? They who? Gurrm owns all the rights and I doubt he'd ever give someone permission to finish the series if he croaked.

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Yeah but, unless I am mistaken which is possible as my law practice is only burgeoning at this point, when he dies the rights either go to an individual who would then be in control of that or to his estate which would have an administrator who would also have ultimate control. They can choose to respect whatever crazy shit he puts in his will, but aren't legally required to. Anyway yeah, 6 years after reading the books and I have again and again heard people reference him saying when he dies the books will end and he'll burn his notes yadda yadda, but have never seen an actual statement from him saying anything like that.
 
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2 seconds on google shows 100 articles with interviews by GRRM saying just that.

here's a quip of one:
"Eventually I will not be alive because Valar Morghulis, all men must men die, and I don't think my wife, if she survives me, will allow that either," he told them. "But one thing that history has shown us is eventually these literary rights pass to grandchildren or collateral descendants, or people who didn't actually know the writer and don't care about his wishes. It's just a cash cow to them. And then we get abominations, to my mind, like Scarlett, the Gone with the Wind sequel."
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Yes, there are tons of interviews with him talking about writers taking over after someone has died and totally trashed the series. He has probably never said directly "Ill never let someone finish my series", but he has gone all the way up to it.

There really isn't any doubt, he isn't going to let someone finish the series voluntarily.
 
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It doesn't matter what GRRM says or wants at this point. He can burn his notes, keel over from a heart attack, or just go do whatever the fuck he wants, but he had to tell the HBO bros what the ending was for all the major characters as a condition of turning his books into a show. HBO is going to finish the story with or without him; the only question that remains for us book nerds is if he will release book 7 before HBO airs season 7.
 
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Dalien_sl said:
It doesn't matter what GRRM says or wants at this point. He can burn his notes, keel over from a heart attack, or just go do whatever the fuck he wants, but he had to tell the HBO bros what the ending was for all the major characters as a condition of turning his books into a show. HBO is going to finish the story with or without him; the only question that remains for us book nerds is if he will release book 6 before HBO airs the final season.
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Yeah I've pretty much lost all of the emotional investment I had in the series. If I'm honest, I'm not even that psyched about the show anymore. I just want to know the damn ending and be done with it.
 
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khalid_sl said:
Yes, there are tons of interviews with him talking about writers taking over after someone has died and totally trashed the series. He has probably never said directly "Ill never let someone finish my series", but he has gone all the way up to it.

There really isn't any doubt, he isn't going to let someone finish the series voluntarily.
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That's what I mean, I've never seen him actually say it. I think the question pisses him off, as it would. It would piss me off if someone kept asking me if they could have my stuff when i died. But I don't think any of us can judge what he would really do, and more importantly what would become of his estate after he died. It is one of those pointless questions, like "how many seasons of the show will there be?" We will know when or if it happens.

I am kind of starting to get of the same mind as Azrayne, and I haven't been waiting even a fraction of the same time as some of you. If he is going to give up i wish he would just do it. Go write some fucking Dunk & Egg stories, or something new, whatever. I realize he isn't our bitch, but stringing us along is a bitch move.
 
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As soon as HBO announced they were finishing the series, I proceeded to not give a fuck about Martin and the books. I'll read them, if he ever writes them, but I actually doubt at this point it will happen in the next decade. Guy has dump trucks of money coming to his house from royalties and he was burned out on the books 5 years ago; so I'm actually happier the series will be finished by people who still have a real passion for it.
 
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