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I can tell you one reason why. Look at the current director of the NIH, you know that massive institution that also happens to give out quite a bit of grants for research.
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You don't have a single shred of evidence that this ISN'T happening beyond your own intuition.
All intuition says that it is happening. The atrocities that big pharma does and somehow not a single group out there in all the world hasn't taken a little bit of liberties? Come on now.
Human cloning is bad, because we're bad at cloning mammals and even worse at cloning primates. If we get better at and can actually make genetically "normal" clones then there is a legal quagmire of immense proportions to stumble through where there are any number ways in which clones could be used for unethical purposes.
That's fucking amateur hour even from you.
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Wow, so your defense boils down to challenging your opponent to prove a negative or the absense of an action? LOL, nice try. That might work in a battle of wits against junior high kids, but not around here pal. That's like saying God exists because you can't prove that he doesn't. It's the logic of a moron.
BTW, the fact that you can't name one single lab that has been implicated in unethical human cloning, is a metric fuckton more evidence supporting my position than any evidence supporting yours.
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But they are super secret labs. I bet they are in SCIFs that fanaskin did surveillance testing for.
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Wow, you are getting desperate now. quotes from your two links...
Try harder.
They tried and failed. That was 2001.
You obviously didn't read the second article.
Labs have tried and ARE trying. You know it. To say it isn't happening is ignorance.
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Where's Lumie when you need him, Robert Lanza clones a human? Adam Lanza shoots up a school. Coincidence, I think not. And if you read the article,
"If Lanza can get to morula stage, well, that's when the controversy is sure to begin. It's at this point that the embryo's genome - the donor's complete DNA - will have kicked in. No larger than the head of a pin, the morula has enormous potential. An embryo at this stage could be implanted in a uterus, a process typically done after 48 hours in the 100,000 in vitro fertilization procedures done in the US each year. Thus, a human clone - should a scientist choose that path.
But that's not what ACT wants. This experiment is central to its pursuit of therapeutic, not reproductive, cloning."
I know the difference .... that doesn't prove that nobody out there is reproductive cloning.
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Show me proof that there is a lab out there that is actively pursuing re-productively cloning a human being and I will believe you.
And, if you prove there is, when it happens, you have to provide evidence that you don't believe in God anymore and became a lobbyist forabortion.
And, if you prove there is, when it happens, you have to provide evidence that you don't believe in God anymore and became a lobbyist forabortion.
If you don't realize that it's the same exact process up to the point where they stop and just don't finish it then .....
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If it is the same exact process up to where they stop, where are all the clones? Shouldn't there be a bunch running around?
You do know the process right? Seems like you don't. The entire process is exactly the same except in therapeutic you don't go to the implant stage.
My point is that you can't successfully clone a human. They are trying. They should try.