Ahsoka
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Merrith
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Yeah the Abeloth rumor is what I'm worried they're doing. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but to try to shoehorn it in on the exact same planet where Thrawn is weird. Having 1 episode left to explain how the Nightsisters left her on that planet, or fought her in the past just wouldn't make any sense. That's to say nothing of all the lore from EU Abeloth stories that would help in actually building her up. Would not like it if Super Big Bad is attempted to be introduced while we've just found Thrawn 2 episodes prior.
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Harshaw
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I am on the side it is Kujet/Zeffo from the 2 Cal Kestis games.
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Qhue
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Ezra always was more Jedi Consular than Jedi Knight, so hoping this Force Fu is a way for them to bring the Consular into full canon.
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Him saying he didn't need a light saber and then going unarmed into a lightsaber duel with another force user is definitely a power spike lol and has never been seen before in live action star wars
I can't remember what gave her the opportunity to push him into the vehicle, but it was an external interference right? Rather than her besting him
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People are missing out by not having seen Clone Wars and Rebels before watching Ahsoka.
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That might be true but from a stand alone series perspective it's a failure in storytelling.
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Why do you believe that? Do you think it needed to cater to first time audiences?
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Grizzlebeard
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Definitely. I get easter eggs but leaving huge swathes of backstory in not only a separate show but also a different medium seems a considerable risk.
One-off shows should be able to stand on their own. While Boba was shit, with the exception of the appearance of Mando, it was pretty much self-contained and didn't need to explain what had come before. Even Mando's cameo could be explained as a bounty hunter friend helping out. And while Cad Bane was from the animated series it wasn't relevant for people to know that. Ahsoka seems to have big gaps in storyline where the people who know "know" and everyone else is left just smiling and nodding and wondering why stuff matters.
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Struggling franchise show on struggling streaming service of struggling studio absolutely doesn't need to cater to a wide audience in order to maximise that audience. No, definitely not, what a stupid idea
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If you want it to be watched by millions including casuals, then yes
If you want it to be watched by 12 neckbeards, then no
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I would say it's more than 12 neckbeards. I count 8 in this thread alone.
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If you don't want the requirement to include watching the cartoon you at least need to structure the world building and the narrative to incentivize people to seek out the missing information. Making a show on the reliance that the viewer has seen all this pre-existing material is short sighted. Having never seen the cartoon I'm still enjoying Ahsoka, but feel no motivation to go back and fill in gaps for things that make no sense. The whole Ezra reveal was a big wet fart and there was little to no appreciation for new viewers that may not be aware of these relationships. Same can be said for Thrawn, Sabine, or any character or their current situations.
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I might feel differently about the cartoons if they were actually watchable. But you have Ahsoka which is rated at least TV-14 and the cartoons which are Y-7. Thats a huge gap in type of audience and therefore in quality of storytelling, world building, characters, etc.
I didnt dismiss the cartoons outright. I attempted to watch them. They're terrible. The dialogue is written for little kids, the plot is basic and shitty so that a 7 year old can follow it. All themes are kiddie themes. It's basically unwatchable if you're an adult who is not a neckbeard soyjack that creams himself over everything Star Wars related. Having an entire differently form of media, written for an entirely different audience, should never be a prerequisite for a show like this. This is just an excuse to cover up for the numerous flaws of this show.
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I'm not going to quote all of you, but boo fucking hoo. How much backstory do you need?
The characters aren't byproducts of woke bias and the story is great, I'm happy enough to take that at this point given what they did with Obi Wan.
Bunch of "spoon feed me everything" motherfuckers, I swear.
The characters aren't byproducts of woke bias and the story is great, I'm happy enough to take that at this point given what they did with Obi Wan.
Bunch of "spoon feed me everything" motherfuckers, I swear.
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lol, it's like if the original trilogy started with ROTJ and didn't tell you why they needed to rescue Han or anything else
There has been nothing so far to say who Ezra is, why he's important (both to plot and characters), how he got where he is etc
Even now, they're only just explaining to casuals the backstory of Ahsoka
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