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Got the little tank going, picked up his fish tonight. He wanted to walk the fish around the whole house first so he wasn’t scared lol. Named him Blueberry.

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^Thank you for rescuing that guy from those cruel little bowls they keep them in.
 
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What do I do about water? Dump some bottled water in it, get it to temp and just let it sit for a few days? Do I need to add anything to it?

You don't need to use bottled water, just get a bottle of dechlorinator and use tap. The dechlorinator isn't expensive at all. Something like this will last you a long time.

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Any tips on keeping the water clear? It’s slightly clouded. Nothing that concerns me, it was just crystal clear for the first few days.

Are these leaves legit for clearing water? It has good reviews like it works.

SunGrow Betta Leaves Replicate Natural Habitat for Betta & Improve Well-Being - Tannin Improves Immunity, Prevents Harmful Bacterial Growth - Easy to use, add 1 Piece per Water Change Amazon product ASIN B00HG1TMIW
 
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The tannin will turn your water dark. How long has it been? might just be bacterial bloom, give it another few days.
 
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The tannin will turn your water dark. How long has it been? might just be bacterial bloom, give it another few days.

Just three days, ok will wait and see if it clears up.
 
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Got some obstacles for Blueberry to navigate. Water cleared up some so not worrying about doing a water change any time soon. I do have stuff like a siphon and bucket coming for when I do need to though.

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We just found Camallanus Cotti in our 720 litre tank. Like 50 Betta females, and probably fish for a total of $1000. All the Bettas are our own spawns.

This worm is spreading in the hobby here in Sweden. We didn't use any quarantine when buying new fish but now we learn the hard way.

Let's hope they all survive the treatment, the medicine is known to kill half the tank. Well one brand anyway, will try the weaker medicine first and hope it cures them. :(
 
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We got any Aquarium specialists here? Can't tell if Kiroy Kiroy is an actual marine biologist or just trolling dead people.
Got a 10 gallon and 29 gallon, 29 gallon had a disaster after 7 years of good life, RIP them dudes.
Anyways considering removing my 10 gallon with the glofish and going 26 gallon bow tank or maybe a 32gallon Corrallife cube tank.
Both are kind of big for Glofish but thinking about maybe having 2 groups of 8 in there like Glo Danio, Glo Tetras and some snails and a algae eater that isn't a Pleco ( last one I bought was 2 inches and he is part of that 29 gallon disaster when the fucker got a foot long ).

Mostly interested if Corral Life 32 gallon tank kit new is $300 on sale locally. Has the killed LED/timer system and concealed filter system in back for a clean tank, or since Glofish if I should just buy a Aqueon 26 gallon bow tank kit new for $125 and upgrade the LEDs/switch them over from current tank for the Glo meisters.
Cats love watching the fuckers. Not sure the cooler tank is worth $175 more.
 
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Sorry, think most of us were into the real fancy stuff. Saltwater and planted tanks running co2 and shit. Id refer to YouTube, find examples of what you like. Honestly id go cheaper and just keep up on your maintenance. Which includes a full gravel clean or swap every year or two in addition to whatever water change or vacuuming you did. (fish go in a holding container while doing this)

Aquariums are mostly closed environments. What goes in never comes out unless you remove it. So many crash long term as they hit cascade events of build up even if you thought you were doing fine with 50% water changes.
 
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I guess the fancy tank is mostly an aesthetic thing so it's up to you if you want to spend the extra money. The basic tank will work just fine though. Do you know how to cycle a new tank? Since you have another tank that you can transfer stuff from it should be easy but you will want to keep an eye on it. You can get an LED light and a timer for a lot less than $175. You might actually see the fish less in the cube tank than you would in a longer, narrower tank also.
 
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We got any Aquarium specialists here? Can't tell if Kiroy Kiroy is an actual marine biologist or just trolling dead people.
Got a 10 gallon and 29 gallon, 29 gallon had a disaster after 7 years of good life, RIP them dudes.
Anyways considering removing my 10 gallon with the glofish and going 26 gallon bow tank or maybe a 32gallon Corrallife cube tank.
Both are kind of big for Glofish but thinking about maybe having 2 groups of 8 in there like Glo Danio, Glo Tetras and some snails and a algae eater that isn't a Pleco ( last one I bought was 2 inches and he is part of that 29 gallon disaster when the fucker got a foot long ).

Mostly interested if Corral Life 32 gallon tank kit new is $300 on sale locally. Has the killed LED/timer system and concealed filter system in back for a clean tank, or since Glofish if I should just buy a Aqueon 26 gallon bow tank kit new for $125 and upgrade the LEDs/switch them over from current tank for the Glo meisters.
Cats love watching the fuckers. Not sure the cooler tank is worth $175 more.

Its a troll from a back and forth with woolygimp i keep it in memory of him rip
 
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We got any Aquarium specialists here? Can't tell if Kiroy Kiroy is an actual marine biologist or just trolling dead people.
Got a 10 gallon and 29 gallon, 29 gallon had a disaster after 7 years of good life, RIP them dudes.
Anyways considering removing my 10 gallon with the glofish and going 26 gallon bow tank or maybe a 32gallon Corrallife cube tank.
Both are kind of big for Glofish but thinking about maybe having 2 groups of 8 in there like Glo Danio, Glo Tetras and some snails and a algae eater that isn't a Pleco ( last one I bought was 2 inches and he is part of that 29 gallon disaster when the fucker got a foot long ).

Mostly interested if Corral Life 32 gallon tank kit new is $300 on sale locally. Has the killed LED/timer system and concealed filter system in back for a clean tank, or since Glofish if I should just buy a Aqueon 26 gallon bow tank kit new for $125 and upgrade the LEDs/switch them over from current tank for the Glo meisters.
Cats love watching the fuckers. Not sure the cooler tank is worth $175 more.
Don't buy a bow tank. They actually suck. Hard to clean, distorts viewing, and cost way more than they're worth.

Just get a 40g long (48" long) or breeder tank (36" long), don't fuck with overpriced bullshit. It should cost at most $150. 25-30g is too small a tank, not enough water, and usually in shitty formats - cubes and bows. Too much vertical. Fish like the length, plus it keeps them grouped for better viewing. Breeder tank is $90 at Petco.

I'm not a fan of glofish, the hippy in me isn't a fan of injecting dyes into fish for entertainment. But you do you. You can get black or cardinal tetras that have bright colors without the artificial-looking purples and oranges. Or if you can find them, congo tetras are badass but usually hella expensive. I picked up about 8 of them for $25 apiece. I bought them young, so it was sort of luck of the draw, as the males are the pretty looking ones, while the females look like regular minnows (pics below).

Built-in filtration is also a pretty bad idea. It's a pain in the ass to clean, and you're going to be cleaning it more often since they're designed to handle like, 2 fish. Get an oversized canister filter that fits under your stand. Check the eBay link below this paragraph. I've bought this brand before (they're effectively unlabeled Aquatop filters). I had one with a UV filter in it, but the plastic wasn't UV protected so it eventually made the trays brittle. Fortunately, they're cheap enough to just buy the whole thing again. This one doesn't have UV, so it should last basically forever. You can probably go 6months without cleaning it out. I have a monster 4-stage that I didn't clean out for TWO YEARS on my 65g (just did it this past weekend) -- water looked like shit, but fish were fine.

Buy a box of polyfil and stuff it in the bottom rack of the canister. This box will last you the lifetime of your tank. Infinitely cheaper than buying replacement filter pads and works just as well if not better.
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Purigen should go in the middle rack of the canister. This is your chemical filtration. Fill the bags and lay them flat in the tray. Put polyfil above and below them. This will last for 6 months. After that, you can pull the bags out, soak them in bleach (regular bleach, not the scented shit) for 24 hours. Let dry out in the sun after that for another 24 hours. Works like carbon, but lasts way longer, and reusable.

Purigen:
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Bags to put Purigen in, the above should fill 3 maybe 4 bags.
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Bio balls (comes with the canister) should go in the top tray. Put polyfil above and below bio balls.

If you're not growing plants, a simple LED light panel is all you'll need. LED lights up glofish and tetras pretty well, regardless of the spectrum.

For substrate, you can use colored pebble shit, OR get pool filter sand locally for fuckin' dirt cheap and it looks 100x better. You'll need about 20 lbs to cover the bottom of a 40g tank with about 2-2.5".

If you want something that cleans the bottom of your tank, get a half dozen corydoras. There's a bunch of different kinds - spotted, striped, green, there's even an electric green and orange that have iridescent green or orange streaks on them, but those are hard to find. They get up to 1.5" long, and they're social so it's ideal to have 6+ of them. Wouldn't get more than 8 for a 40g tank. You could also fit ONE spotted catfish (pictus catfish) in addition to the 6 corys. They get up to 4-4.5", peaceful. I've got one and he's a pretty active fucker. Getting a pleco was obviously a terrible idea, as you learned, lol.

Food? I've bought all different kinds. New Life Spectrum brand has given me the best fish coloring and produced the least amount of water discoloring. Spirulina wafers and pellets are great for keeping your fish healthy, and their digestive tracts clean. Buy from this guy. 2mm pellets for tetra, wafers for bottom feeders.

$90 Tank
$50 Stand
$50 Canister filter
$24 Polyfil
$15 Purigen
$5 Purigen bags
$25 LED light
=$259

Male congo tetra:
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Female congo tetra:
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Corydora catfish (Trilineatus):
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Spotted catfish (pictus catfish):
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I've been keeping fish for 20+ years. I've had 45 to 110g saltwater with corals and planted freshwater tanks with CO2. I now keep a 65g planted freshwater without CO2.

I've got the following stocked in my tank:
6x Redline sharks
6x Siamese Algae Eaters
8x Congo tetras (3 male, 5 female)
5x Black tetras
6x Corydoras (mixed)
1x Spotted catfish

I'm way overstocked, but I've got enough filtration for a 220g tank.

I also removed most of my plants and only keep a bed of hardy echinodorus altlandsberg, which is a type of sword plant.
 
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Sorry, think most of us were into the real fancy stuff. Saltwater and planted tanks running co2 and shit. Id refer to YouTube, find examples of what you like. Honestly id go cheaper and just keep up on your maintenance. Which includes a full gravel clean or swap every year or two in addition to whatever water change or vacuuming you did. (fish go in a holding container while doing this)

Aquariums are mostly closed environments. What goes in never comes out unless you remove it. So many crash long term as they hit cascade events of build up even if you thought you were doing fine with 50% water changes.
My 29 gallon had a heater fail. Cooked the fish as it failed on.
I don't have much issue with my 10 gallon on the nightstand beside the bed, but I and the cats demand better. I was bouncing around just going with a 20 gallon at first, then found out I could get the 26 bow kit for 125 brand new then the pet store mentioned the 32 gallon coral life for $300 which is cheaper than anyplace online. Sadly due to space limitations ( 25" wide is all I can spare, which is the size of the 26 gallon ) so the 40+ are out of the question. I want to keep it beside the bed cause honestly I like going to sleep watching them and waking up to them and the cats come visit to watch them. So that leaves a 32 gallon cube, 26 gallon bow or a 20 gallon plain tank. I have a brand new filter with 5 stage for the 29 gallon I never opened, and a heater/plants and about 20 pounds of black/glow gravel left from when I had planned to use it in the 29 gallon tank. I may restart that one as well after a breakdown. It'd also have to stay 29 gallon as I have a decent stand with canopy already for it.

I do like Acid's canister filter option. That is far more reasonable than the ones I saw and I currently have a spotted catfish in my 10 gallon, which I have seen 3 times in 2 years. He mostly comes out at night. Mostly.
I also like Acid's suggestions of fish. I like my glofish but the buggers are $8 a pop and they suggest groups of 5. So if I added 1 more glo tetra and 3 more Danios I would be far under a 26 gallon capacity still.

I was looking at Tetra/Aqueon kits because not only do they come with LED lighting for $100 or less( along with more plants, filter, heater, setup stuff I don't need ) but they have full hoods. I got 7 cats, open hood with small led bar is a no beuno for me. It'd take exactly 1 hour after setup till we saw a cat splashing about. Ahhh the sacrifices.
I had planned to take my uv lights from existing aquarium and attaching them to the new aquarium hood so I have the daytime it comes with, most have 2 moonlight blues and then the UV for the glofish. I keep those now on a timer using a wyze smart plug that turns on the power at 9am and off at 6pm.

With all that said, Petco sells the tanks 1$ per gallon but only has the 20 gallon in stock in size constraints I need. 20 gallon long or 40 gallon, I would have to rework half the room for. I had the room but I ditched my tall dresser for a 57 inch wide low dresser but I don't think it would tolerate 400lbs of water on it. Maybe.

They also had a Landan rimless low iron 25.5 gallon tank for $180 just the tank no hood or anything that was square but no rim means hood issues again.
Sad to hear about the bow tanks distorting things. Cleaning the glass hasn't been a huge issue with me for the ones I have, I think once in 2 years I had algae I had to remove but distorting may be a issue although I will be mostly looking at the fish from the flat side.

So here I am back to 20 gallon tall, 26 gallon bow or a extremely expensive but well built corral tank 32 gallon ( 28-29 after filter area? ) but with a decent selection of fish and a better filter idea!
 

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Oldbased Oldbased Have you watched all the thousands of Youtube channels about tanks? I'm obsessed with some of the tiny 2 gallon desktop style waterfall tanks.
 

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You can probably find better used on local fish groups/forums /Facebook. Unless you have plants I'd keep lighting minimal to deter algae issues. I hate buying tanks or lights from big box store as they are a fortune. Maybe grab the cheaper decent sized tank if you can and get less off Amazon. Many cheap options. Especially since you arnt trying to grow coral, you don't need some 120watt brick. The stores that charge you $75 for a little led kit that is probably 20 watts tops is a joke vs just a $20 kit of some kind on Amazon.


Most heaters sadly suck. Big tanks can use multiple small heaters to prevent stuck on betting an issue. Some leak current over time. For a small ish tank, consider a temp controller. Essentially has a probe and connects to the heater and generally do well. The reason eheim etc fail is they have a little metal tab thingy that fuses open after enough cycles.
 

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Oldbased Oldbased Have you watched all the thousands of Youtube channels about tanks? I'm obsessed with some of the tiny 2 gallon desktop style waterfall tanks.
Nah, I just been browsing around for weeks. It is what I do lol. Tanks and chairs. If I had a connection to a new source I could probably write better articles on them at this point than the ones I read searching. Turns out everyone basically has the same 7 brands/tanks. Funny story, when I was looking at the 26G bow tank, I was like what stand even fits that thing. So I searched for the stand. Turns out only 2 places had them. One is 4 blocks away from me. Go figure. So I got to looking at their web page and everything is marked down with a front page plea to buy gift cards and buy locally. Turns out they are hurting due to CV. So I focused on what they have, which is the 3 selections I mentioned that fits my space.

As for heaters, ya I am going to do something about that. My room is climate controlled between hvac and window air so I just got to figure out how many hours a day I need to run it then split it into a off/on schedule or as Slu said a temp controlled plug. I've seen them.