Arkk's Weight Lifting / Fitness Thread
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Yesterday I went to the gym and was warming up my squat. Between warmup sets I need to stretch my shoulders out. So I grab the racked bar with my hands and lean down/forward, slightly bending my knees, to stretch out my shoulders as I always do. Suddenly I get this sharp shooting pain in my right knee. I couldn't squat below 1/2 squat position without some pretty serious pain. It only comes on the way up.
FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. No major problems since November, I'm squatting 200 no fucking problem, then suddenly I bend it weird while stretching with no goddamn weight and fuck it up?
Today it's still fucked. I'm icing it repeatedly throughout the day and eating NSAIDs like candy. There's a sharp pain on the inside of the knee when I walk in certain positions. It's especially bad when I get out of my car. I've tried to mimic some movements the orthopedist did years ago to test for a ligament injury, and I feel no pain. I wasn't bearing any weight. Could it be a meniscus tear?
Any idea what it is? I'm fucking mega hypochondriac with my knee now. I had to scrap the squats, but I could do power cleans no problem. I don't know what to do now - be super cautious and not do squats for a few days or week+, or try to start light and work through it. God dammit
FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. No major problems since November, I'm squatting 200 no fucking problem, then suddenly I bend it weird while stretching with no goddamn weight and fuck it up?
Today it's still fucked. I'm icing it repeatedly throughout the day and eating NSAIDs like candy. There's a sharp pain on the inside of the knee when I walk in certain positions. It's especially bad when I get out of my car. I've tried to mimic some movements the orthopedist did years ago to test for a ligament injury, and I feel no pain. I wasn't bearing any weight. Could it be a meniscus tear?
Any idea what it is? I'm fucking mega hypochondriac with my knee now. I had to scrap the squats, but I could do power cleans no problem. I don't know what to do now - be super cautious and not do squats for a few days or week+, or try to start light and work through it. God dammit
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Is it safe to assume you've already got it in a brace? I had major reconstructive surgery in my right knee 12 years ago, and it still isn't "right". On heavy lifting days/squats/leg press/whatever I HAVE to slap on a moderately expensive brace to keep it in place/prevent excrutiating pain. It still gets sore, but it is greatly, GREATLY diminished w/ the brace.
What grip do you guys use on front squats? I have never been able to do the olympic grip. I just can't seem to get my arms to bend that way.
I always just cross my arms and have the bar resting on my shoulders and collar bone more or less. Like this:
I always just cross my arms and have the bar resting on my shoulders and collar bone more or less. Like this:
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http://www.braceshop.com/ProductCart...ace-35p319.htm
I use something like this (same brand, but looks a little different). Was maybe $60 but it was money well spent.
I use something like this (same brand, but looks a little different). Was maybe $60 but it was money well spent.
I dont use a brace. My surgery wasn't related to any kind of stability structure. It was a plica excision. Quite rare. The issues I typically have are stiffness inside the joint (remaining plica gets inflamed easily is my guess). And if I run with a heel strike, the inside of my knee gets a sharp pain that can last for days. But none of this pain happens during normal walking, and my knee stability is fine. But after yesterday, I'm getting pain occasionally when walking.
How would a meniscus tear cause pain on the outside? Most meniscus tears are on the inner ring, aren't they?
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Girlfriend tore her medial playing volleyball in college. Played through the pain too, girls a fucking champ.
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I'm having another squat issue. I was on my 3rd set, and on the last few reps I noticed I was basically pushing through my toes. From what I've googled, it means my weight is too far forward. But my heels aren't actually coming off the ground.
Anyone ever come across this? I'm wondering if I've got a muscle imbalance somewhere, or if my form has just gone to shit.
I don't ever remember this happening with high bar squats. But since I've been starting over, I've been trying low bar squats.
Anyone ever come across this? I'm wondering if I've got a muscle imbalance somewhere, or if my form has just gone to shit.
I don't ever remember this happening with high bar squats. But since I've been starting over, I've been trying low bar squats.
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Just means the weight is too much Elurin. It could be as simple as fatigue that day, or it could be a bigger problem. You need to figure that out on your own, though. I know today I drove off my toes on the last rep because if I didn't I wasn't coming back up.
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I guess that's definitely possible. Like I said, I failed a rep last week. I've gone from 155 to 200 in 8 weeks (with 2 weeks skipped, so 6 actual workouts). Seen that way, yeah, it's no wonder it feels heavy as shit.
I've got some weird mental stuff going on with the weights right now since the last time I worked out I was lifting so much more, and it doesn't feel like that long ago. But really it was almost 2 years ago.
I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing until February is over. Then I'll go for a 2-3 month round of a Starting Strength type routine (squatting 3x a week) after a deload.
I've got some weird mental stuff going on with the weights right now since the last time I worked out I was lifting so much more, and it doesn't feel like that long ago. But really it was almost 2 years ago.
I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing until February is over. Then I'll go for a 2-3 month round of a Starting Strength type routine (squatting 3x a week) after a deload.
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Yeah I don't think other shit on your mind other than lifting the fucking weight on your back is a good idea. If you're constantly thinking of form, drop the weight. If you're thinking you should be able to do more, be patient. Trust me, I hadn't gone to the gym in over a year and put 225 on the squat rack (I used to do 315, last set) and my quads felt like they were going to explode on the first rep.
For me, it was simply my last rep (so 25th) of 225 and I knew if I didn't lean forward and use my toes, I simply wasn't going to come back up, and in some retarded way, I'd rather complete the rep that way than some dude spotting me lol.
Now the question is, do I actually have more driving power off my toes? Or is it all in my head from playing sports all my life?
For me, it was simply my last rep (so 25th) of 225 and I knew if I didn't lean forward and use my toes, I simply wasn't going to come back up, and in some retarded way, I'd rather complete the rep that way than some dude spotting me lol.
Now the question is, do I actually have more driving power off my toes? Or is it all in my head from playing sports all my life?
It's not unusual for form to fall during the last reps of the last set. Constantly focusing on form every rep is important. Low bar squat is trickier to keep consistent good form. When you're close to failing a rep, a way to cheat is raising your ass while letting your back fall forward, then doing a bit of a back extension to get it up. That would put the weight further forward. Focus on driving your hips and keeping the back angle constant.
So today is 2 days after I hurt my knee again. I tried some body weight squat reps today and it was np, but once I got to 75lbs it caused massive pain and I had to stop. I went on for a PR in cleans and deadlift, so the problem only manifests at the deep part of the squat. Is there a detailed diagnostic guide anywhere that could help me? I'm gonna lose my mind if I can't get my squat back and I'm constantly guessing what the problem is. Lifting is kind of keeping me sane at the moment and I gotta get it back.
This. As long as you aren't doing squats wrong, focusing on those small details is pointless. You aren't competing any time soon or at the point where you need to be min maxing. It's like beginner runners(I've done this, or tried) worrying about their strike when they begin. Just squat, just run, etc and progress gradually, that's what matters.
Didn't feel like good workout today. Was benching at 295 but after the fourth rep I lost a bit of strength and it control'd fell into the power rack bars after felt drain'd with benching afterwards. Chances are my muscles are fatigued from pushing earlier in the week. Got some results with front squats after some frustration with posture, grip, and getting a balance of it all to do ATG without the bar rolling forward. We'll see how it goes entering the next week. Hit 235 on bent over rows, but struggled with a couple half-ass reps.
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Maybe you're driving too far down? Are you bouncing your knees? Maybe your form somehow goes to shit at the bottom, leading to pain? I think you should have someone look at your form, or record yourself and see what's going wrong.
Or maybe you're just broken.
Maybe you missed my previous post. I (re)hurt my knee bending down for a stretch, not during a squat. The pain just manifests at the lower part of the squat. This is a result of whatever happened when I was stretching. My squats were causing no problems prior to this. Symptoms point to a minor meniscus tear, but I had no swelling, and there is no tenderness self-doing (poorly) the 3 most common orthopedist tests for meniscus injuries.
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Did a fucking gnarly leg workout today and I almost literally crawled out of the fucking gym. Thought I was going to puke during (and still now, 2 hours afterwards). Maybe I ate to close to the workout (an hour or so) or something? I've gotten nauseous on days where I've lifted heavy (especially legs), but not like this - and not for so long afterwards. Troubling.