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Fitness Reality 810XLT Super Max Power Cage
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It's basically the cheapest highly rated rack on amazon that has a high (800lbs) rating.
 
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Tuco said:
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4I8FOY
Fitness Reality 810XLT Super Max Power Cage
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It's basically the cheapest highly rated rack on amazon that has a high (800lbs) rating.
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Better than nothing. It looks like it's made out of paper but if they say 800 at least you can sue em when it buckles into you at 225. Just looking at the bolt configuration that thing is gonna be janky and wobbly as shit.

This says 700 lb capacity but I have a feeling it would be a better bang for the buck with the including bench (think you need to drop $30 on a set of jhooks). Titan is pretty respected:

T-2 Power Rack & Incline Bench Combo
 
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Kiroy said:
Better than nothing. It looks like it's made out of paper but if they say 800 at least you can sue em when it buckles into you at 225. Just looking at the bolt configuration that thing is gonna be janky and wobbly as shit.

This says 700 lb capacity but I have a feeling it would be a better bang for the buck with the including bench (think you need to drop $30 on a set of jhooks). Titan is pretty respected:

T-2 Power Rack & Incline Bench Combo
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The T2 is the other one I'm looking at. It's only $50 more that the other one. It's got worse reviews than the Fitness Reality version, specifically about parts being warped..
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https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Power-Squat-Deadlift-Bench/dp/B00GHNLK9E

What about the bolt configuration makes you think it's janky / wobbly?
 
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The T2 is the other one I'm looking at. It's only $50 more that the other one. It's got worse reviews than the Fitness Reality version, specifically about parts being warped..
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https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Power-Squat-Deadlift-Bench/dp/B00GHNLK9E

What about the bolt configuration makes you think it's janky / wobbly?
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I don't know, looking at the T2 the difference is they are in the top vs the inside side. They look a little bigger and more industrial too, but that could just be in my head. I had a super shitty rack when I was younger and almost killed myself using it like 10 different times. Do you already have a bench?
 
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Kiroy said:
I don't know, looking at the T2 the difference is they are in the top vs the inside side. They look a little bigger and more industrial too, but that could just be in my head. I had a super shitty rack when I was younger and almost killed myself using it like 10 different times. Do you already have a bench?
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This is the bench I have.

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It did not come with the blonde, 2 stars.
 
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405x8. Going to take a deload week, retest my max the following Monday, and then continue along with Kizen.

Hopefully I can pull 495.
 
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Well, that doesn't really say anything about it being good or bad for you, just that it takes less effort if you bounce. But that's not really surprising.
 
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I am now the proud owner of the cheapest 300lbs olympic weight set that $189 can buy.

http://www.sears.com/weider-300lb-weight-set/p-00615814000P

The color can only be described as "apocalyptic grey goo". The finish on the inner rings of the plates is smooth after you file down all the burrs. The shape of the plates were designed for maximum discomfort for the user, as the inner parts of the handles come to a sharp corner that digs in your hand while you try to carry it.

The collars the kind of reassuring jangling that you'd expect from a trusty AK-47 after it's been used as a bat to bludgeon a few people to death. I haven't tried to lift anything heavy yet, but I suspect that my new barbell will bend until it's more crooked than Hillary Clinton.
 
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Well, that doesn't really say anything about it being good or bad for you, just that it takes less effort if you bounce. But that's not really surprising.
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Strength and conditioning specialists utilizing the deadlift should be aware that the bounce technique does not allow the athlete to develop maximal force production in the early portion of the lift. Further analyses should focus on joint angles and potential vulnerability to injury when the barbell momentum generated from the bounce is lost.
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The bold is most important, but the second sentence is relevant as well. If you're not developing explosive power off the floor, you're not getting stronger. i.e. you will never progress because you're hampering your ability to build quad strength to pull the damn bar off the floor.

Most science suggests bouncing the weight is also incredibly bad for your joints, I don't think I need to explain why that is.

So yeah, I repeat... don't bounce the fucking bar. Full resets is definitely the way to go if you want to become stronger.
 
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You are extrapolating that far beyond what it suggests. It says it does not allow MAXIMAL force production. Not that it creates zero force production. The study also suggests it puts significantly less pressure on your joints, making it healthier for them by carrying momentum into the next rep via bounce.

So, a better way to interpret that study is "It might be better for joint health to bounce the weight and increase reps to make up for lost force production. More data on joint health is needed.". Basically it sounds like unless you are training for competition bouncing could be a better way to train for longevity.
 
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Tuco said:
I am now the proud owner of the cheapest 300lbs olympic weight set that $189 can buy.

http://www.sears.com/weider-300lb-weight-set/p-00615814000P

The color can only be described as "apocalyptic grey goo". The finish on the inner rings of the plates is smooth after you file down all the burrs. The shape of the plates were designed for maximum discomfort for the user, as the inner parts of the handles come to a sharp corner that digs in your hand while you try to carry it.

The collars the kind of reassuring jangling that you'd expect from a trusty AK-47 after it's been used as a bat to bludgeon a few people to death. I haven't tried to lift anything heavy yet, but I suspect that my new barbell will bend until it's more crooked than Hillary Clinton.
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I built a cheap-ish home gym recently as well as we have a kid coming next month and I figured my gym excursions will be limited - I'll post a pic later but below I've attached some cheap, pretty good collars that make my life a little easier.

Amazon product ASIN B01HHKG3D8
 
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I've tried to incorporate Overhead Press in my training to work my shoulders, but I got spooked by a pinch feeling I get in my right shoulder during the last few reps of a set. My brother had shoulder impingement and I get contradictory information on internet on the long term risk of Overhead Press.

So I tried to replace the overhead press with inclined bench press but I got even more pain in my shoulders than during overhead press. Can I just flat bench press and forget about specific shoulder work or am I going to develop muscle imbalances?
 
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Razzes said:
I've tried to incorporate Overhead Press in my training to work my shoulders, but I got spooked by a pinch feeling I get in my right shoulder during the last few reps of a set. My brother had shoulder impingement and I get contradictory information on internet on the long term risk of Overhead Press.

So I tried to replace the overhead press with inclined bench press but I got even more pain in my shoulders than during overhead press. Can I just flat bench press and forget about specific shoulder work or am I going to develop muscle imbalances?
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Warm your shoulders up really well before any shoulder work (look up youtube vids) and start with lower the weight to a point where you don't feel the pain. A shoulder injury is pretty much right behind a back injury for how much it fucks everything up in your life.
 
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Razzes said:
I've tried to incorporate Overhead Press in my training to work my shoulders, but I got spooked by a pinch feeling I get in my right shoulder during the last few reps of a set. My brother had shoulder impingement and I get contradictory information on internet on the long term risk of Overhead Press.

So I tried to replace the overhead press with inclined bench press but I got even more pain in my shoulders than during overhead press. Can I just flat bench press and forget about specific shoulder work or am I going to develop muscle imbalances?
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I went through a couple months of physical therapy for shoulder pain last year. I'm no expert, but my opinion is that while you can guess and experiment different stuff, ther'es so much that can go wrong that you'd have to get lucky to both diagnose the issue and come up with a sensible treatment for it on your own.

There was a whole bunch of weird shit they did and about two dozen different exercises I did over those couple months to help my shoulder. The big thing was fixing my movement patterns while using my shoulders, and fighting against rounding of my shoulders.
 
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Thanks, warming up makes sense. Now that I think about it, I used to have similar pain when doing the very first set on the bench. I definitely have a latent issue and as Tuco said it is futile to try and fix it randomly. I'll give it a few more tries after warming up, taking it slowly.
 
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Oh and to speak against what I just said: last year I started getting a swelling feeling in my left knee when I ran/walked too much. I couldn't talk my doctor into getting PT for it because he's a toolbag, but when I tried that limber 11 program I discovered I got a lot of pain/pleasure from rolling a tennis ball on basically all the tendons in my left hip (much more so than the right hip). I got instant release from some "swelling feeling" symptoms in my knee from doing it, and do about 30s of it before every workout and haven't had any problems.

This was after doing a month of the bullshit exercises my general practitioner doctor recommended I do that did exactly nothing to help me.


Limber 11: The Only Lower-Body Warm-Up You'll Ever Need!
 
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