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Hoss
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You do realize this is a documentary, right?
Speaking of how real it is, where the fuck is starling city? I was thinking somewhere on the west coast since they took a boat straight from starling city harbor to china. But they flashed a map up there this episode, and it looked more like it was in canada.
Caliane
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Caliane
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Hrm weird. look how close San Fran and vancouver are on that map? lol.
This is what I was talking about. There should be a better screen cap somewhere, but I can't find it.
Looks like starling city is a little northwest of New York. I mean, your map makes a lot more sense.
Alot of creators are not exactly aware of the set geography. stuff does move around. usually its fairly set though.
Like, the Gotham and metropolis are across the bay from each other, and visible. This is only noted like maybe 70% of the time.
I'd almost bet Nolan doesn't know it. or his Gotham is not canonically that close to Metropolis.
(Other then the fact he didn't even bother masking the New york skyline for the Stadium collapse scene. all that cgi destruction and no one thought to bother adding bridges, or changing the shoreline so its not blatantly obviously Manhattan?)
iirc Young Justice had Gotham in CT, near New Haven.
Grimmlokk
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The shot leading up to it is a clear shot of Pittsburgh.
That map says Metropolis has a population of 72k, that seems incredibly low.
Caliane
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ha. pittsburgh not quite as famous. but yeah, looking at it again, I think I do recognize it. and even more amusing as it clearly doesn't match the Manhattan shots.
yeah, city pop does vary wildly based on boroughs, etc. highly commercial centers, etc. population may live outside the city.
that said.. yeah, add a 1 or 2 to that number. it lists Ivy town, CT as 146k... a college town in rural CT. (not uconn/storrs, its old lyme iirc)
Wikipedia says Metropolis has 11 million... which I'd say goes the other way and is too high.
While we are at it, it lists New York city as 1.6 million... even if we add newyork and brooklyn, which are listed seperately?, that 4 million. New yorks population is 8 million.
Washingtons about right . 632k vs 640k now.
I linked for locations, did not check population, or crime stats. or even affiliated heroes.
hrm, lists Booster gold as Phoenix, AZ. Booster is from 25th century Gotham, moved to Metropolis, then operated out of current time Metropolis.
JLI operated out of New York.
So yeah, even that has flaws..
Qhue
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If we ignore the writing and look at the landmass it seems like Starling City is somewhere near Kansas City. Note that the writing places New York somewhere in North Carolina and Washington DC is in Georgia...
This is what I was talking about. There should be a better screen cap somewhere, but I can't find it.
Looks like starling city is a little northwest of New York. I mean, your map makes a lot more sense.
Ambiturner
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Batman routinely beats Ra's and hasn't been training for hundreds of years so I'm not buying the idea that he's unbeatable because of his age.
Now the common theme of all comics is to make the villain seem unbeatable until the hero eventually beats them in the end. It's also following the Arrow formula where he gets shown as outmatched in the middle of the season like with Merlin and Slade.
Void
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What Chuk said. And, Batman also beats Darkseid routinely, so you're arguing comic book logic. We were, before Grimm reminded us what nerds we were being, arguing a somewhat realistic scenario wherein someone training for decades, if not centuries, should be able to completely school a guy training for less than ten, unarmed or not. That's it. We all agree that if the plot calls for the clearly superior person to lose, they will lose, but in a "real life" scenario simply having a sword doesn't give you an auto-win, which is what some people were arguing.
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I like that Arrow can and did lose. Super preparedness is gay. There should be people you just can't beat atm. Preparedness is fine when used wisely. When Arrow beat Flash, even though Flash has superior powers, Flash still lost because of Arrows experience and being prepared.
Caliane
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Also Batman does not beat Ra's in sword fights routinely. Like once.
This story is based of a Batman story even... where Ra's does leave Batman for dead, in the desert. Talia revives him. (then drugs him, has sex, and calls the kid Damien)
Lets see if the replicate that with Lyssa.
This story is based of a Batman story even... where Ra's does leave Batman for dead, in the desert. Talia revives him. (then drugs him, has sex, and calls the kid Damien)
Lets see if the replicate that with Lyssa.